Imate JASJAR is twang

[mancombseepgood]

Can't believe these guys - I have an Imate SP2 and have recently worked on a friend's Jasjar. Initially i enjoyed it and it comes with 3g and Wifi.

BUT!!!!!

They went badly south with the pocketPC side of things. It has 64Megs of RAM! IE combined o/s, applications and general storage = 64 megs. Yes you can add an sd card for storage, but it doesn't help you run apps when you have a couple running already. Skype, for example, frequently won't start without you first visiting the memory applet in control panel to exit other running programs. Just after initial boot-up, at least 32 megs of RAM is used for OS already. My Imate SP2 uses 14 megs on boot.

With 128 megs of RAM on my SP2, I have no such problems. They made a BAAAAD judgement call on this one.

It sucks big time

[stoke]

Thanks Ed.

[mancombseepgood]

Thanks Ed.


This is just one of those things I feel so strongly about - I hate to see people spend good money and get rubbish... we already do that enough with Telkom

[cyberbob]

strange, I have a DELL PDA, also with 64MB RAM, and I have no such issue?

[lukev]

Do you have to post the same message on 4 threads?

[mancombseepgood]

Vodacom users don't necessarily read MTN + Cell c threads and not many people read the "other topic" thread. So yes.

[mancombseepgood]

strange, I have a DELL PDA, also with 64MB RAM, and I have no such issue?


Smaller OS no doubt. This thing comes with all the bells and whistles, so RAM available on boot up is minimal. Do you use Skype on your Dell? It works fine if all you want is a calendar and email. 2 megapixel cam is built in to the jasjar - and you know how big a 2 megapixel jpg can be.

[cyberbob]

yeah, but normally the pics and other odds 'n ends would be stored on the extra SD Card?

I suppose, my Dell is running PocketPC 2003.

I really wanna get a JasJar, so that I don't need to carry my phone and PDA arround all the time, but this does worry me, I do alot of my own developing for my PDA too ... so would suck if I couldn't use my apps on the JasJar due to memory issues :(

after initial boot, how much mem is available for apps to run, and how much mem does Skype require?

[mancombseepgood]

yeah, but normally the pics and other odds 'n ends would be stored on the extra SD Card?

I suppose, my Dell is running PocketPC 2003.

I really wanna get a JasJar, so that I don't need to carry my phone and PDA arround all the time, but this does worry me, I do alot of my own developing for my PDA too ... so would suck if I couldn't use my apps on the JasJar due to memory issues :(

after initial boot, how much mem is available for apps to run, and how much mem does Skype require?

Don't get anything with less than 128 meg if you develop. But I guess the big thing is available RAM after bootup. I just can't get over how they can think of fitting 32 megs of active progs / operating system on a 64 meg total machine. To give you an idea - the flash Rom is 128 megs... figure that - rom is twice RAM. I am very happy with my Imate SP2 - plenty of RAM available, plus my SD card. My Rom is 64 meg. The general features on the Jasjar are quite something - the Wifi works well, 3g too - Camera is great, but the thing slows to a crawl in no time when you use it for other than the calendar, mail and basics. I just don't get it - with the price of Ram these days, why 64? Why not start looking at 512 megs on portable items? Or are there issues with addressing these numbers on a smaller device (I wouldn't think so). Portable manufacturers must be working on such tight budgets to be that stingy.

The PDA 2k has 128 RAM and 64 ROM: http://www.leafwireless.com/?pid=142

The Jasjar has all these impressive features, but 64 RAM!
http://www.leafwireless.com/?pid=878
(p.s. my bad above - it has a 1.3 mega camera)

Great features, but frustrating for the PDA power user. I tried it with a piece of mapping software I had and couldn't get it to work as the software can't open files from SD card for some reason (prob. the gui) - and the map files were too big to store in RAM on the unit without using up precious space.

Also... with the built in O/S, you can't adjust RAM for storage vs program space as you can with WME 2003... don't know why.

[MaD]

My JAM only has 64MB as well, but downloaded a little freeware app called Switch from FreewarePPC.com - http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/switch.shtml (beware ads) - very very handy indeed, the phone wouldnt be nearly as easy to use without it.

[cyberbob]

I wonder then, if there is any plan on increasing the total RAM on the JasJar?

still would love one, wonder if the K-JAM as the same issue?

[Liposuck2004]

i agree with Ed, sure your dell pda only has 64MB but did u purchae it for 12 and a half grand??
dam i mean really now the device is aimed at power users but they are offering inferior mem?!?! unacceptable, so yes they made a very bad call on that

[RoviWil]

I read some reviews months ago when Skype (for PPC) was still taking off.
Most reviewers aired their doubts about the K-Jam (HTC Wizard) handling Skype (or any other resource intensive app for that matter) due to the CPU it uses.

Compared to other devices running WM5 its kina "slow".

Not sure if this will make a difference.
Just my 2 cents.

RoviWil

[demon angel]

Where can i get a second hand one?

[JK8]

Im impressed with the P3300 nice little phone not as big as I taught it would be!

[The Guy]

Im impressed with the P3300 nice little phone not as big as I taught it would be!
200 Mhz processor is like the Toyota TAZZ .. it too slow .. the little pearl Mouse jobbie is cool though

[JK8]

200 Mhz processor is like the Toyota TAZZ .. it too slow .. the little pearl Mouse jobbie is cool though

Oooh, I never noticed. The build quality and the design is cool. And the little pearl!:p

Ill get the others later.
Which is the best from the 3300, 3400, 4350 and 7500? Is it the 7500?

[The Guy]

I wonder then, if there is any plan on increasing the total RAM on the JasJar?

still would love one, wonder if the K-JAM as the same issue?

The K-Jam has a 195 Mhz processor as opposed to the Jasjar which has a 520 Mhz processor ...
the Qtek 9000/Jasjar is still one of my favourite devices ... with a couple of tweaks mine flies

[JK8]

The K-Jam has a 195 Mhz processor as opposed to the Jasjar which has a 520 Mhz processor ...
the Qtek 9000/Jasjar is still one of my favourite devices ... with a couple of tweaks mine flies

Wow just had a look at the New Imates, theses companies are in their own league!!:eek:

[Piesang]

Where can i get a second hand one?

It depends. How much are you willing to pay?

I have one. Battery is not excellent anymore but the phone is in a good condition.

It's got Windows Mobile 6 installed on it. Works like a charm. :D

[riaan_pta]

Comparing the i-mate Jasjam and HTC TyTN - it seems these are exactly the same device (dimensions/specs etc):

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=1659&idPhone1=1589

Also the O2 XDA Trion - http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=1659&idPhone1=1589

Am I missing something?

[Gunny]

You not missing anything they the exact same thing marketed by different companies.