Pitbull
20-09-2011, 09:15 AM
Does anyone know if Rhinos can consume oleander without any effects?
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Ou grote
20-09-2011, 09:20 AM
You have a new pet?
HavocXphere
20-09-2011, 09:22 AM
Pretty sure they can't. I recall a story about some farmers losing a bunch of their cattle because of it. Somehow it strikes me as unlikely that cattle die but rhinos are immune.
The real question is rather will the attempt to in the first place.
The real question is rather will the attempt to in the first place.
Ninja'd
20-09-2011, 09:24 AM
"Where did that come from?" - FNB
Tacet
20-09-2011, 09:26 AM
Nice idea, but probably too slow in working. It is going to take a large number of fatalities before people start making the connection between "rhino product" and "deadly".
Unless I'm misreading between the lines?
Unless I'm misreading between the lines?
Pitbull
20-09-2011, 09:33 AM
Nice idea, but probably too slow in working. It is going to take a large number of fatalities before people start making the connection between "rhino product" and "deadly".
Unless I'm misreading between the lines?
No you've got the right idea.
Simple, we poison the horns and make it widely public that all horns are being treated with (insert poison). If they want to keep consuming these horns and die it's their problem. I'm currently thinking either Oleander or Ricin. Ricin you get from Castor Beans. Which is a waste product from making Castor oil. Which is highly dangerous when consumed. Just no idea how it will affect Rhinos if their horns are treated. I'm under the impression that Oleander is safe for Rhinos for some reason...
Thus the question in the OP :o
Unless I'm misreading between the lines?
No you've got the right idea.
Simple, we poison the horns and make it widely public that all horns are being treated with (insert poison). If they want to keep consuming these horns and die it's their problem. I'm currently thinking either Oleander or Ricin. Ricin you get from Castor Beans. Which is a waste product from making Castor oil. Which is highly dangerous when consumed. Just no idea how it will affect Rhinos if their horns are treated. I'm under the impression that Oleander is safe for Rhinos for some reason...
Thus the question in the OP :o
Ou grote
20-09-2011, 09:37 AM
No you've got the right idea.
Simple, we poison the horns and make it widely public that all horns are being treated with (insert poison). If they want to keep consuming these horns and die it's their problem. I'm currently thinking either Oleander or Ricin. Ricin you get from Castor Beans. Which is a waste product from making Castor oil. Which is highly dangerous when consumed. Just no idea how it will affect Rhinos if their horns are treated. I'm under the impression that Oleander is safe for Rhinos for some reason...
Thus the question in the OP :o
Why not find a poison that makes penises fall off or shrivel when ingested.
Simple, we poison the horns and make it widely public that all horns are being treated with (insert poison). If they want to keep consuming these horns and die it's their problem. I'm currently thinking either Oleander or Ricin. Ricin you get from Castor Beans. Which is a waste product from making Castor oil. Which is highly dangerous when consumed. Just no idea how it will affect Rhinos if their horns are treated. I'm under the impression that Oleander is safe for Rhinos for some reason...
Thus the question in the OP :o
Why not find a poison that makes penises fall off or shrivel when ingested.
Pitbull
20-09-2011, 09:40 AM
Why not find a poison that makes penises fall off or shrivel when ingested.
That will take way too long to test and I'm not sure we'll have enough test subjects :D
That will take way too long to test and I'm not sure we'll have enough test subjects :D
Ou grote
20-09-2011, 09:42 AM
That will take way too long to test and I'm not sure we'll have enough test subjects :D
True, maybe add some to the food at the next ANCYL banquet.
True, maybe add some to the food at the next ANCYL banquet.
Ninja'd
20-09-2011, 09:52 AM
Why not find a poison that makes penises fall off or shrivel when ingested.
Eels can do that. (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/366524-Chinese-bloke-gets-eel-lodged-up-todger)
Eels can do that. (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/366524-Chinese-bloke-gets-eel-lodged-up-todger)
McGuywer
20-09-2011, 10:44 AM
Eels can do that. (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/366524-Chinese-bloke-gets-eel-lodged-up-todger)
Eina Eina Eina!!!
Eina Eina Eina!!!
murraybiscuit
20-09-2011, 11:09 AM
you don't want to play with ricin, believe me (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Markov).
they are already testing a toxin with a long term residual efficacy as mentioned in an earlier thread.
why would oleander be any better? poisons generally break down given environmental exposure, which is why the above substance was touted as an option.
they are already testing a toxin with a long term residual efficacy as mentioned in an earlier thread.
why would oleander be any better? poisons generally break down given environmental exposure, which is why the above substance was touted as an option.
HavocXphere
20-09-2011, 11:20 AM
Pretty sure you're overthinking this PB.
The horn is I think pretty much dead already. Sort of like fingernails & hair. So theoretically you can put pretty much anything in there.
On a side note I don't get why they don't just cut the damn horns off & call it a day. _Nothing_ short of that will work because the poacher needs to see the problem *before* he shoots not after.
The horn is I think pretty much dead already. Sort of like fingernails & hair. So theoretically you can put pretty much anything in there.
On a side note I don't get why they don't just cut the damn horns off & call it a day. _Nothing_ short of that will work because the poacher needs to see the problem *before* he shoots not after.
Tacet
20-09-2011, 11:24 AM
Pretty sure you're overthinking this PB.
The horn is I think pretty much dead already. Sort of like fingernails & hair. So theoretically you can put pretty much anything in there.
On a side note I don't get why they don't just cut the damn horns off & call it a day. _Nothing_ short of that will work because the poacher needs to see the problem *before* he shoots not after.
Rietvlei Nature Reserve have cut all their rhinos' horns. It is extremely sad to see them like that - the horn is part of the definition of the rhino - but it is necessary and I agree that it is the right thing to do. The problem is that there is still a stub left, and there has been incidents where the rhino was killed for that stub.
http://missionrhino.za.org/2010/07/injured-rhino-to-heal-at-zoo/#more-913
The horn is I think pretty much dead already. Sort of like fingernails & hair. So theoretically you can put pretty much anything in there.
On a side note I don't get why they don't just cut the damn horns off & call it a day. _Nothing_ short of that will work because the poacher needs to see the problem *before* he shoots not after.
Rietvlei Nature Reserve have cut all their rhinos' horns. It is extremely sad to see them like that - the horn is part of the definition of the rhino - but it is necessary and I agree that it is the right thing to do. The problem is that there is still a stub left, and there has been incidents where the rhino was killed for that stub.
http://missionrhino.za.org/2010/07/injured-rhino-to-heal-at-zoo/#more-913
HavocXphere
22-09-2011, 02:39 PM
It is extremely sad to see them like that - the horn is part of the definition of the rhino
True but frankly I don't care about that anymore....not given the slaughter happening atm.
The problem is that there is still a stub left, and there has been incidents where the rhino was killed for that stub.
:(
I'm guessing then they need to remove it surgically, not just cut it off. A bit extreme sure, but if it continues like this the species survival will be threatened. Pretty sure they can still breed without horns. ;)
True but frankly I don't care about that anymore....not given the slaughter happening atm.
The problem is that there is still a stub left, and there has been incidents where the rhino was killed for that stub.
:(
I'm guessing then they need to remove it surgically, not just cut it off. A bit extreme sure, but if it continues like this the species survival will be threatened. Pretty sure they can still breed without horns. ;)
EnchanterG
22-09-2011, 03:06 PM
True but frankly I don't care about that anymore....not given the slaughter happening atm.
:(
I'm guessing then they need to remove it surgically, not just cut it off. A bit extreme sure, but if it continues like this the species survival will be threatened. Pretty sure they can still breed without horns. ;)
I'm not so sure, if they're less horn-y they'll not procreate. :D
:(
I'm guessing then they need to remove it surgically, not just cut it off. A bit extreme sure, but if it continues like this the species survival will be threatened. Pretty sure they can still breed without horns. ;)
I'm not so sure, if they're less horn-y they'll not procreate. :D
Mila
22-09-2011, 06:57 PM
Do you think you can sedate a rhino for that amount of time? If you can it's an option. A friend works on a game farm in nw. They even bash the scull of a 2 month old calf to get that little bit if a hump. That has not even been a horn yet