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skimread
11-11-2011, 10:57 PM
Eating is not allowed on the train which I understand but adults not being allowed to chew gum does not make sense.
I regularly chew dental gum as it relaxes me and the security guard on the train tells me it's not allowed because people stick it on the seats. I have never in my life sticked gum on a seat or table not even in school.
So i take it out of my mouth and where does he want me to stick it. Moron.

Reminds me of school children not allowed chewing gum in class so they stick it under the table before class.
Professional people use the train not school children.
Treat people like children and they are more likely to behave like children.

OGroteKoning
11-11-2011, 11:04 PM
I like those rules. Not everyone is so disciplined as you. Its for those who has no respect for others and others' property. Being arespectful person like yourself, Im sure you will warm up to the idea in no time!

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orin76
11-11-2011, 11:27 PM
Professional people use the train not school children.


Professional people can behave like children too sometimes.

mcryan
11-11-2011, 11:44 PM
I used to take the bus and remember the new fleet arriving. They were immaculate, of course. After only a year they were trashed with graffiti, gum, broken seats and filth.

I'd rather the Gautrain keeps their rules strict and the train a pleasant place for all. Not everyone respects the property as they should.

Voicy
12-11-2011, 12:49 AM
Professional people can behave like children too sometimes.


I used to take the bus and remember the new fleet arriving. They were immaculate, of course. After only a year they were trashed with graffiti, gum, broken seats and filth.

I'd rather the Gautrain keeps their rules strict and the train a pleasant place for all. Not everyone respects the property as they should.

Yep, just look at how "professionals" and "up market" people treat the ablutions in bars and clubs...or even just the movie theatres. It's despicable. Rather sad how much pride and general ettiquette is lost when you're not the one who has to clean up.

Lounger
12-11-2011, 01:27 AM
Eating is not allowed on the train which I understand but adults not being allowed to chew gum does not make sense.
I regularly chew dental gum as it relaxes me and the security guard on the train tells me it's not allowed because people stick it on the seats. I have never in my life sticked gum on a seat or table not even in school.
So i take it out of my mouth and where does he want me to stick it. Moron.

Reminds me of school children not allowed chewing gum in class so they stick it under the table before class.
Professional people use the train not school children.
Treat people like children and they are more likely to behave like children.
I've seen these 'professionals' do all sorts of things on the trains, like put their feet up, smoke, lie across the seats, spit, graffitti, rip the seats, etc etc..

Lucky to see a guard these days. It used to be common for them to tell idiots off.

Totempole
12-11-2011, 01:28 AM
Chewing gum under desks is a very sore point for me from my school days.
Like skimread I have never in my life stuck chewing gum under my desk.

I definitely wasn't exactly a "star pupil". I used to hide a camera in the class
and see how much I could piss my teacher off, by doing stupid things, like
wearing paper hats and sending balloon condoms across the classroom. :D

So needless to say, I got detention, usually this was no big deal, do like 100
pages of writing out for a couple of hours and you're done.

Anyways, this time it was different, we had to clean chewing gum off of the
school desks and chairs, needless to say, there was a lot more than just
chewing gum stuck under the desks. :sick:

The bottom line is, I think the rule about no chewing gum on the train is
a good idea, but there'll always be some people that will do it anyway.

It's kinda like sneaking your own food into a cinema. *admit it guys,
everyone's done at some point* I packed a bit heavy once, and
unfortunately the guy didn't believe I was Santa Clause :whistle:, so I got
busted. I still tried to run anyways and ended up being dragged out
of the cinema. :D Perhaps if my friends had carried their own load, we
wouldn't have been caught. :mad:
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Anyways, my suggestion is: Next time you're on the train, if they treat you like a school kid
chew your gum like a school kid. Stop chewing when the security guard walks by and start
again when you're out of his/her line of sight. If you get caught, make sure you have a
piece of paper to wrap your gum in.

Simple as that. ;)

riscbroker
12-11-2011, 09:58 AM
Eating is not allowed on the train which I understand but adults not being allowed to chew gum does not make sense.
I regularly chew dental gum as it relaxes me and the security guard on the train tells me it's not allowed because people stick it on the seats. I have never in my life sticked gum on a seat or table not even in school.
So i take it out of my mouth and where does he want me to stick it. Moron.

Reminds me of school children not allowed chewing gum in class so they stick it under the table before class.
Professional people use the train not school children.
Treat people like children and they are more likely to behave like children.

Why stick it? Do you think swallowing gum is harmful?

Venomous
12-11-2011, 10:00 AM
Yep, just look at how "professionals" and "up market" people treat the ablutions in bars and clubs...or even just the movie theatres. It's despicable. Rather sad how much pride and general ettiquette is lost when you're not the one who has to clean up.
Sadly this is very true,,,

Ekstasis
12-11-2011, 10:07 AM
You also have "adults" killing rhinos for their horns, because there's other "adults" believing it has medicinal value. :mad:

So yes, I agree with the gum rule. You just can't trust "adults".

Korn1
12-11-2011, 10:13 AM
I like those rules. Not everyone is so disciplined as you. Its for those who has no respect for others and others' property. Being arespectful person like yourself, Im sure you will warm up to the idea in no time!

Sent from my Galaxy S II

Agreed + it just gum so wait when you get off. :)

evilstebunny
12-11-2011, 10:46 AM
Professional people use the train not school children.

I think the rules are rediculous so I'm not coming up for them, but they have to cater for the lowest demoninator here. Remember we live in a time where there's no respect for private property and train carriages are being torched on a whim.

Keeper
12-11-2011, 11:12 AM
I think this is ridiculous.

WTF is all this punishing people for crimes they have not even committed yet?
What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Is this minority report or something?

What happened to our liberties...not allowed to chew gum on a train? this is absurd



We are being controlled more and more each day and you guys are okay with that?

Venomous
12-11-2011, 12:00 PM
personally I don't like chewing gum.

& if you sit at a restaurant table & discover leftover gum it's a real hunger killer...

chrisc4290
12-11-2011, 12:02 PM
Why don't you just gob it out the window. With correct timing, it might hit an oncoming train

Voicy
12-11-2011, 12:04 PM
I think this is ridiculous.

WTF is all this punishing people for crimes they have not even committed yet?
What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Is this minority report or something?

What happened to our liberties...not allowed to chew gum on a train? this is absurd



We are being controlled more and more each day and you guys are okay with that?


It's called preventative maintenance...a much better alternative to reparative maintenance. Would you want to ride a train where they're strict on eating laws, or a train that constantly has to be cleaned of sticky stains all over?

Apart from the silly gesture that you cannot go without eating for the period that you are on the train, I can't see how anyone would want to eat in an enclosed environment where strangers are coughing/breathing all over you.

Speaking of which, if you're allowed to eat...then so is the dude who brought his egg & atcha sarmies to work. Do you REALLY want that odour climbing up your nostrils?

abzo
12-11-2011, 12:19 PM
What's the longest you're going to spend on the Gautrain anyway?I'm sure even Alex Ferguson could manage going on the Gautrain without having to chew gum.

zizo911
12-11-2011, 12:28 PM
I personally don't like gum chewing as it makes me hungry... But I agree with this rule. People should not chew gum in public transport. ;)

skimread
12-11-2011, 12:37 PM
It's dental gum and it is already in my mouth when I boarded but was told to take it out at Airport Station sitting in the train for 20 minutes waiting to depart.

I would prefer if it is in your mouth when you board you can keep it there. Not forced to take it out.
I don't swallow the dental gum.

Next time I will only chew when the guy is not walking past i.e. when the train is moving.

Korn1
12-11-2011, 12:52 PM
And you guys call us smokers bad...

skimread
12-11-2011, 12:57 PM
And you guys call us smokers bad...Dental gum good for your health. Smoking not. Huge difference.

Korn1
12-11-2011, 01:02 PM
Dental gum good for your health. Smoking not. Huge difference.

Dude,smokers deal with a lot of restrictions (not saying smoking is good). But shyt,gum? Now unfortunately we get dumb ppl who stick it anywhere.

Bismuth
12-11-2011, 02:13 PM
Personally, I think this is a great rule, am glad to see that they are actually enforcing it.

I think they shouldn't just tell you to throw your gum away if they catch you with it, but there should be a spot fine of R200-500 if you are caught. They can stop you at the access control when you are arriving, and tell you to get rid of it, but if you are caught past this point, or departing, with chewing gum, then the fine should become applicable. The only way people will learn, really.

B

Messugga
12-11-2011, 02:17 PM
Personally, I think this is a great rule, am glad to see that they are actually enforcing it.

I think they shouldn't just tell you to throw your gum away if they catch you with it, but there should be a spot fine of R200-500 if you are caught. They can stop you at the access control when you are arriving, and tell you to get rid of it, but if you are caught past this point, or departing, with chewing gum, then the fine should become applicable. The only way people will learn, really.

B

I agree completely with this. No eating is no eating. You're a big boy, you'll manage without your chewy for a few minutes. There's a good lad.

Mystic Twilight
12-11-2011, 02:24 PM
Seriously, some guys here won't be able to survive Singapore.

skimread
12-11-2011, 02:25 PM
Gum is allowed in airports during scanning, boarding and being in the plane. If I arrive from a flight overseas just to be told at the airport train station gum is not allowed it somehow just doesn't make sense seeing it was allowed on the plane.

There are cameras on the Gautrain so if you stick gum beneath the seats they can heavily fine you so don't punish people who use it to relax. Travelling on public transport and standing in queues can be stressful. Chewing gum is relaxing.

I don't drink or smoke so don't punish me on the only transport in this country that has this stupid rule.

zaozzie
12-11-2011, 02:47 PM
Why don't you just gob it out the window. With correct timing, it might hit an oncoming trainGautrain does not have windows that can open.

genetic
13-11-2011, 09:34 AM
I've seen these 'professionals' do all sorts of things on the trains, like put their feet up, smoke, lie across the seats, spit, graffitti, rip the seats, etc etc..

Lucky to see a guard these days. It used to be common for them to tell idiots off.

You know we're talking about the Gautrain here?? Security is pretty tight...

evilstebunny
13-11-2011, 12:10 PM
Personally, I think this is a great rule, am glad to see that they are actually enforcing it.

I think they shouldn't just tell you to throw your gum away if they catch you with it, but there should be a spot fine of R200-500 if you are caught. They can stop you at the access control when you are arriving, and tell you to get rid of it, but if you are caught past this point, or departing, with chewing gum, then the fine should become applicable. The only way people will learn, really.

B

I bet you wish you were still in school where some teacher or what-not can make all your decisions for you.

Tacet
13-11-2011, 01:15 PM
I bet you wish you were still in school where some teacher or what-not can make all your decisions for you.

I'm glad that they made, and enforce, the decision for all who use the train. Yes, it is inconvenient, but it ensures that I don't have to encounter some idiot's second hand gum. As for enforcing the rule retrospectively - chances are that they'll only discover the gum long after the miscreants are gone. At that stage it is just about impossible to id the guilty on tape.

Also, the principle of fairness - how can they allow gum, but I'm not allowed to eat a garlic and egg sandwich!? (:sick:)

Bismuth
13-11-2011, 01:53 PM
I'm glad that they made, and enforce, the decision for all who use the train. Yes, it is inconvenient, but it ensures that I don't have to encounter some idiot's second hand gum. As for enforcing the rule retrospectively - chances are that they'll only discover the gum long after the miscreants are gone. At that stage it is just about impossible to id the guilty on tape.

Also, the principle of fairness - how can they allow gum, but I'm not allowed to eat a garlic and egg sandwich!? (:sick:)

Exactly, look at the condition of the Metrorail, where nothing of the sort is enforced. Not sure on their "Business Express", but there regular trains are not very hygienic.

In any case, as has already been stated, it's not like you are on the train for hours, so go without your gum for awhile. Heck, I bet there was the same outcry when smoking was banned on aircraft, and there smokers go without cigarettes for 12+ hrs in some cases.

B

zaozzie
13-11-2011, 05:35 PM
I trip including waiting time from Joburg International can take an hour due to paying, waiting, changing trains, stops and the trip itself.

Total trip during late hours is not as fast as you are believed to think.

Peder
13-11-2011, 06:08 PM
You guys wouldn't survive a day in singapore...

In singapore gum is banned, you aren't even allowed to have it in your luggage, and you can get fined for chewing gum...

Bismuth
13-11-2011, 08:37 PM
I trip including waiting time from Joburg International can take an hour due to paying, waiting, changing trains, stops and the trip itself.

Total trip during late hours is not as fast as you are believed to think.

Ok, so if smokers can wait an hour to have a cigarette, I am sure gum-chewers can wait an hour for their fix.

Singapore has the right idea!.

B

zaozzie
13-11-2011, 09:20 PM
You guys wouldn't survive a day in singapore...

In singapore gum is banned, you aren't even allowed to have it in your luggage, and you can get fined for chewing gum...Not entirely correct. The ban was lifted for some scenarios such as dental gum like the the OP mentioned he is using.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_gum_ban_in_Singapore



The ban has been partially lifted, as some types of gum are allowable, such as gum chewed for dental health. However, the government refuses to completely lift the ban for the risk of gum littering again.



Revision of the Act
U.S. President George W. Bush and Singapore Prime Minister Chok Tong Goh sign a free trade agreement in the White House, 6 May 2003. White House photo by Tina Hager.

In 1999, United States President Bill Clinton and Singapore Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong agreed to initiate talks between the two countries for a bilateral free trade agreement (USS-FTA).[5] The talks later continued under the new administration of President George W. Bush. Details of the closed-door negotiations are unknown, but it became apparent that by the final phase of the negotiation in early 2003, there remained two unrelated issues: the War in Iraq and chewing gum.

The Chicago-based Wm. Wrigley Jr. Company enlisted the help of a Washington, D.C lobbyist and of Illinois Congressman Phil Crane, then-chairman of the United States House Ways and Means Subcommittee on Trade, to get chewing gum on the agenda of the United States-Singapore Free Trade Agreement.[6] This caused a dilemma for the Singapore Government. It recognised the health benefits of certain gums, such as a brand of sugar-free gum that contains calcium lactate to strengthen tooth enamel. Sale of this newly categorised medicinal gum was allowed, provided it was sold by a dentist or pharmacist, who must take down the names of buyers.

Soon, the USS-FTA was signed and the ban was revised. "They were tough," Crane said of the talks. Some found it surprising that Wrigley had fought hard on this battle, given the small size of Singapore's chewing market. But the company said it was worth it. "There's many examples in our history of things that may have not made short-term financial sense but was the right thing to do in a philosophical or long-term sense," said Christopher Perille, Wrigley's senior director of corporate communications.

So I would suggest the OP when visiting his dentist gets a prescription for the dental gum he is using and when security guard hassles him again then show him the prescription. As simple as that.

KingBel
14-11-2011, 04:12 PM
I've noted on one occasion that the security is quite relaxed at night (after 8pm when the last trains are pulling through). I was catching the last train from Sandton to Hatfield on the same night as the Winex event. The Gautrain station was full of drunk and tipsy people ... many of them were drinking , chewing gum and even smoking on the platform in full view of the security guards. I suppose that the guards just realised that it was too much hassle to try to get drunk people to comply, but rules are rules... if it applies to me, it should apply to everybody.

skimread
14-11-2011, 07:27 PM
I've noted on one occasion that the security is quite relaxed at night (after 8pm when the last trains are pulling through). I was catching the last train from Sandton to Hatfield on the same night as the Winex event. The Gautrain station was full of drunk and tipsy people ... many of them were drinking , chewing gum and even smoking on the platform in full view of the security guards. I suppose that the guards just realised that it was too much hassle to try to get drunk people to comply, but rules are rules... if it applies to me, it should apply to everybody.The problem is people starting from Oliver Thambo. The train has to depart a fixed time so you sit there waiting for it to depart for 20 minutes. Since the train is not moving security guards then like in my case walk around looking for any sign of transgression. It was late at night on Sunday that they told me to remove it from my mouth despite me having it in my mouth before I entered the train.

I have seen prostitutes late at night using the train which is much more off putting than me chewing gum. You can spot a prostute a mile away by the way they dress, look, walk and act.:sick: