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louisp
10-05-2006, 04:17 PM
Think it was on 5FM.

I heard them saying that ever since the security guards went on strike. we have seen a decrease in bank robberies.

Is this true?

Is there really that many bank robberies every month, for them to be able to track this trend?

Would be interesting if it is true.

:)

craigsa
10-05-2006, 04:18 PM
Dunno about bank robberies but Cash in transit ? Yeah hundreds per year.

antowan
10-05-2006, 04:18 PM
Very interesting!

kingmonty
10-05-2006, 04:19 PM
I was doing research on CIT (Cash In Transit) Heists the begining of the year and there were over 1.7 per day for last year in the country.

louisp
10-05-2006, 04:32 PM
So can you check if there has been a significant decline in the past month?

kingmonty
10-05-2006, 04:34 PM
I will have to phone a whole lot of people. I'm not doing any more research on the project at the moment

zerofocus
10-05-2006, 07:37 PM
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kingmonty
11-05-2006, 04:08 PM
Just to come back to louisp. There has not been a discernable drop in CITs for the past 2 months as compared to last year. There have been less overall so far this month though.

Figures are according to the security companies data that I have collected. These figures are "unofficial" as technically one is not allowed to release crime statistics without government approval. (this therefore also serves as a disclaimer)

Total for March & April: 102
Total for May: 15

These figures are country wide and take all attempted (whether successful or not) heists and holdups into consideration, including armored car transfers, guarded transfers and pickups.

* Figures are also not necessarily update to the central security offices timeously, so this is not necessarily a 100% reflection of fact.

Right Click
11-05-2006, 05:47 PM
It must be because the cops are on top of the problem and the criminals are running scared.

kilo39
11-05-2006, 05:49 PM
It must be because the cops are on top of the problem and the criminals are running scared. We'll take that as the off-colour joke it really is?! You should use /sarcasm/ - so none of us get confused!?

Right Click
11-05-2006, 06:08 PM
We'll take that as the off-colour joke it really is?! You should use /sarcasm/ - so none of us get confused!?

I was not being /sarcastic/ at all.

With regard to CIT the SAPS have a lot of experience and have learned how to combat this scourge.

I take my hat off to those cops that have to deal with these professional,ruthless and experienced criminals.

Some of which have had military training I might add.

And do you have to bring colour in to the discussion..?

RC

kilo39
11-05-2006, 06:18 PM
I was not being /sarcastic/ at all.

With regard to CIT the SAPS have a lot of experience and have learned how to combat this scourge.

Oh joke. Cops never had a handle before - now everybody goes on strike -and there is a drop in CIT?! Me has to think really deep to NOT see the connection.

louisp
11-05-2006, 06:50 PM
Just to come back to louisp. There has not been a discernable drop in CITs for the past 2 months as compared to last year. There have been less overall so far this month though.

Figures are according to the security companies data that I have collected. These figures are "unofficial" as technically one is not allowed to release crime statistics without government approval. (this therefore also serves as a disclaimer)

Total for March & April: 102
Total for May: 15

These figures are country wide and take all attempted (whether successful or not) heists and holdups into consideration, including armored car transfers, guarded transfers and pickups.

* Figures are also not necessarily update to the central security offices timeously, so this is not necessarily a 100% reflection of fact.

Many Thanks kingmonty!!

That info is highly appreciated. Testimony to the power of this forum.

Think we should wait to the end of the month to even consider drawing conclusions. Just a stab in the dark, but i'm guessing there might be more heists towards the end of a month?

:)

kingmonty
11-05-2006, 07:07 PM
Many Thanks kingmonty!!

That info is highly appreciated. Testimony to the power of this forum.

Think we should wait to the end of the month to even consider drawing conclusions. Just a stab in the dark, but i'm guessing there might be more heists towards the end of a month?

:)
Correct. The most heists tend to be between the 22nd and 28th of a month

craigsa
11-05-2006, 07:23 PM
Pay day ??

kingmonty
11-05-2006, 07:26 PM
yeah. I think pay day is the 25th for a very large portion of the population. One of the biggest targets is pension fund cash transfers

craigsa
11-05-2006, 07:29 PM
Interesting.