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InternetSwag
27-05-2012, 11:16 AM
No, I'm not getting fired. Just curious.

I heard that you need to get three written warnings before you can be fired and that you can't receive a written warning for the same thing during a period of two weeks.

I used to work at a place last year that messed me around and changed my salary a lot. From what I hear you can't legally reduce someones salary if they are still doing the same amount of work (work hours). I also hear that after three working days you are considered employed whether you have a contract or not.

This is all hearsay from people that have been messed around in the past.

I just want to protect myself from future events should they occur, the knowledge may be of use sometime during my life.

If not, could you provide a contact number at which I could find all this out? I don't mind paying the person if they prove to be useful.

:) ty

MickeyD
27-05-2012, 11:19 AM
Wrong. Certain transgressions can warrant immediate dismissal.

Celine
27-05-2012, 11:20 AM
"you're fired".

MickeyD
27-05-2012, 11:25 AM
An employer may not "mess around" with your salary without your permission unless you have been found guilty of a disciplinary transgression that leads to a suspension without salary (including being absent without leave) or they have been issued a garnishee order.

nexxus
27-05-2012, 11:29 AM
I don't think 3 warnings is set in stone anywhere. It varies with the level of the transgression, I mean they aren't going to give you a warning if you stole secrets or willfully endangered someone's life or something.

I would assume that firing you after 1 warning for being tardy would be frowned apon by the CCMA but even that could have caveats.

InternetSwag
27-05-2012, 11:31 AM
An employer may not "mess around" with your salary without your permission unless you have been found guilty of a disciplinary transgression that leads to a suspension without salary (including being absent without leave) or they have been issued a garnishee order.

That is good to know :D

MickeyD
27-05-2012, 11:35 AM
I don't think 3 warnings is set in stone anywhere. It varies with the level of the transgression, I mean they aren't going to give you a warning if you stole secrets or willfully endangered someone's life or something.

I would assume that firing you after 1 warning for being tardy would be frowned apon by the CCMA but even that could have caveats.
Using the tardy incident... it could be like this:
1st offence - verbal warning
2nd offence - written warning
3rd offence - final written warning
4th offence - dismissal

The first two offences will be dealt with by the foreman or supervisor.
The next two offences will be dealt with via a formal disciplinary enquiry.

Each "warning" is valid for a period of 6 months.

SinghDude
27-05-2012, 11:47 AM
@ OP

If one is caught stealing there isn't 3 strikes you out....

You will fired and even criminal charges can be laid against you.


Enought info is available ,just google it ;)

The BCEA is a fair indicator of the employeee vs employer relationship.

cbrunsdonza
27-05-2012, 11:56 AM
Wrong. Certain transgressions can warrant immediate dismissal.

+1

To add to Mick'D, you need to refer to your companies code of conduct as this will list how many and type of warnings for each transgression.

A company can even decided not to give verbal warnings and go straight to final written warnings or go all the way and go the dismissal route for even the smallest transgression. Obviously there are rules and regulations here to protect both parties.