OpenWeb Suggestion

[headstrong]

Hi there Mr Beep

I have a very small suggestion:

Why don't u guys have a "local only" account with openbrowse?

I like your 2gig int + 28 gig local + openbrowse int 192... But i would preffere 30 gigs local + openbrowse 192 + NO INTERNATIONAL!

I dnt have any need for international bandwidth besides the odd google search and checking my email which i can use openbrowse for...

I dnt care about p2p as i can get all that from an OC lan....

Do u guys think u could consider a local only account with openbrowse 192?

This would be greatly appreciated

Thanks alot

[guang]

this is a good suggestion.
But OpenBrowse doesn't work very well sometimes,atm I have no international access with openbrowse.

[DGremlin]

this is a good suggestion.
But OpenBrowse doesn't work very well sometimes,atm I have no international access with openbrowse.

Yep ... throws up a "proxies fail test - proxies not available".

I would rather have a 30GB international than just local, I spend a lot of time roaming on the internet, and sometimes the proxy gets in the way. The fact that someone is able to sell just local bandwidth for such, regardless of price is beyond terrible ... The simple fact people would actually buy local only is even worse, we all so starved for bandwidth it seems we will buy just about anything just to be able to surf a little more.

I do know what you saying, but 30 international would give you what you need and accomodate more people out there at the same time. We should be fighting for greater bandwidth not trying to pay more for less...

[MrBEEP]

Hey headstrong,

THank you so much for your suggestion. We have been looking at such a package, and are hoping to have a launch date soon.

Re: OpenBrowse reliability. We have recently added Load Balancing, that will be perfected today. I apologise for any inconvenience caused.

[m0zy]

I do know what you saying, but 30 international would give you what you need and accomodate more people out there at the same time. We should be fighting for greater bandwidth not trying to pay more for less...

Agreed

[headstrong]

Great Thanks MrBeep

Do u have any launch dates or proposed pricing ...

Thanks

[headstrong]

DGremlin,

I'm a gamer... I only play on South african servers...

I have no real need for international bandwidth, although i definetly do feel cheated having to opt for "local only access". I do however have to suppress these fealings of " cheap skate " beacause it's my wallet that makes the decisions not my head....!

Understand now DGremlin?

[hj2k_x]

This is certainly a good idea. I just hope MrBeep can find some kind of cost-effective way of offering it to us at a good price :)

[ForSure]

A gamers package for steam would be nice
to get int acces on steam when capped
isnt that a good idea ?

[Highflyer_GP]

I'd buy local only just for newsgroups

[hj2k_x]

What would people be willing to pay for local-only bandwidth? I mean seriously, be resonable now

[headstrong]

Datapro is selling it @ 30 gig!!! I would be prepared to pay about R15

[hj2k_x]

Thats 10 gigs for R150. You can get a 2gig/30 account for R165

edit: Which works out at only R5.15/gig. So it would have to be cheaper than that :p

[MrBEEP]

We launched a trial package yesterday to show our competitors just how expensive they really are.

The package expires at the end of the weekend, however, if you purchase an account, it will last until month end, or until your GB's are up. If successfull, and people take interest in it, we will make it a permanent package.

10GB's of FULL SPEED, Unrestricted local bandwidth for R119.

That works out to roughly R11.90c per GB, if I am not mistaken.

[headstrong]

I take back what i said about R15 per gig coz i 4got that open web already sell it 1 gig + 10 gig for R121...:)

MrBeep, thanks so much

Does it however include openbrowse? If so, then it would be the best offer around without a doubt!

If not, what about adding an option to add openbrowse for an extra, minimal, fee?

Thanks alot for your great work

[hj2k_x]

I agree, at that price it needs to include openbrowse...

[MrBEEP]

I thought it was already cheap compared to R30 per GB. Adding OpenBrowse at no extra charge will unfortunately not be financially viable.

[headstrong]

Hey MrBeep,

I understand that it wouldnt be financially viable for you, hence "adding an option to PAY for openbrowse"

[hj2k_x]

I thought it was already cheap compared to R30 per GB. Adding OpenBrowse at no extra charge will unfortunately not be financially viable.

But not compared to R5.15/gig which is what is on offer now....

[headstrong]

From who hj2k_x?

[hj2k_x]

Thats 10 gigs for R150. You can get a 2gig/30 account for R165

edit: Which works out at only R5.15/gig. So it would have to be cheaper than that :p

See here....

[headstrong]

yes yes but which ISP...

[hj2k_x]

Oh sorry...MrBeep is Openweb. I mean u can get it from him already...

[headstrong]

Hey MrBeep

What do u think about : "adding an option to PAY for openbrowse"

SHot

[hj2k_x]

Thing is, the 2gig/30 with 96k openbrowse is R196, so how much more would u be willing to pay?

[headstrong]

How much would the above cost without the 2 gig international..? That is what i want

[hj2k_x]

Indeed. I am with u on that one man. But apparently, despite the international making up most of the cost, this is not something that can be done by isps...

There were some calculations in another thread...

*searches...

[Turbo_Aspiration]

Thing is, the 2gig/30 with 96k openbrowse is R196, so how much more would u be willing to pay?

Isnt this going to be discontinued along with all openbrowse packages except the 192k one?

[MrBEEP]

All the OpenBrowse packages that we currently offer, are there for the long run :)


Isnt this going to be discontinued along with all openbrowse packages except the 192k one?

[Turbo_Aspiration]

All the OpenBrowse packages that we currently offer, are there for the long run :)

Cool :)

But I swear one of the usage emails had something about a price increase and all openbrowse packages except 192k being discontinued... probably didnt read properly as usual :D

[hj2k_x]

So, no chance of removing the international for a significant price drop then?

[ForSure]

are openweb usage email accurate ? because i get a different readings on isadsl.co.za and sasa ......... and those reading are way lower and make more sense
which do u believe more >?

[headstrong]

Not sure, forsure :)

I dnt have adsl yet... Busy sorting out technicallities first

[ForSure]

shame dude still waiting ? dont worry dude just keep bothering them

[RazorSA]

I did the calculations!!! Me, over here!!! Sitting in the DARK SINCE ESKOM IS PLAYING @#$#$ with my power!!!!

Another 'government' company pissing me off !!!!

[RazorSA]

More calculations:

If a 192K-IS-2GB-28GB account costs R229 from OpenWeb. (That is 192K OpenBrowse, IS account, 2GB Intl, 28GB local)

And a IS-2GB-28GB account costs R171 from OpenWeb. (Again, IS account, 2GB Intl, 28GB local - NO OpenBrowse)

Then: The 192K OpenBROWSE package costs R58 for the 28GB of local bandwidth. (R229 - R171 = R58)

So.... If you were to purchase a 10GB local only account for R119 from OpenWeb, then you should be willing to pay R20.71 for the OpenBrowse service as an 'add-on', for those 10GB. ((R58 / 28GB) * 10GB = R20.71)

But, that will probably NOT be financially viable for OpenWeb, since they are obviously relying on Contention Ratios to make their money !!!!!

So, you will probably end up paying the full R58 for the OpenBrowse add-on for any account.

SO: The cheapest account for local only bandwidth at the moment is: The 2GB-IS-28GB account !!!!! At only R5.70 / GB !!!!! (R171 / 30GB = R5.70)

Also from OpenWeb !!!! :cool:

[RazorSA]

Also, MrBEEP, I am really sorry to say this, BUT:

Your [NEW!! 1GB + 10GB One Month Stand Accounts from OpenWeb, only R121!] account is bull$hit.

- I am assuming that you are aiming it at a niche market, who either can't afford the 2GB-IS-28GB account, OR who just need a little something extra to see them through the end of the month!

For an extra R50, they would get an additional 1GB Intl bandwidth, AND another 19GB of local bandwidth!!!!

I am hoping that this is a niche market, and you do not push this as your main account to people who assume that this is "the best bang for their buck!!!!"

~A Loyal Customer to the end!!!

[headstrong]

Nice1 Razor!

Why now need clarity from MrbEEp ...

[headstrong]

Razor i dnt think that many people would be willing to pay R50 *12 = R600 an year just for extra bandwitdth which they might not use..

Thats why he has both options.. :)

[MrBEEP]

We sell many different accounts to suit many different types of people.

Like Ford who starts with the KA that looks like an octopus, we start with the 1GB + 10GB for R121.

They end off with the ***us, we end off with the 10GB + OpenBrowse 192k.

Different folks have different strokes and needs.

If we offer only one package, we would be called communist, and that is certainly NOT a tag I want to carry.

SO, our 1GB + 10GB local for R121 might be "bullsh*t", but there is a need for it, so we will sell it.



Also, MrBEEP, I am really sorry to say this, BUT:

Your [NEW!! 1GB + 10GB One Month Stand Accounts from OpenWeb, only R121!] account is bull$hit.

- I am assuming that you are aiming it at a niche market, who either can't afford the 2GB-IS-28GB account, OR who just need a little something extra to see them through the end of the month!

For an extra R50, they would get an additional 1GB Intl bandwidth, AND another 19GB of local bandwidth!!!!

I am hoping that this is a niche market, and you do not push this as your main account to people who assume that this is "the best bang for their buck!!!!"

~A Loyal Customer to the end!!!

[RazorSA]

MrBEEP,

I understand that, and I make note of that in my post.

The topic started off with the question: "Why don't u guys have a "local only" account with openbrowse?"

There was a little discussion, and then you came along and suggested that you are currently selling an account: "10GB's of FULL SPEED, Unrestricted local bandwidth for R119."

Then there was talk about adding onto that account an OpenBrowse add-on package. There followed a lot of discussion about OpenBrowse, and which account really was the cheapest.

I ended off with a little price comparison, and came to my conclusion.

Then, I made a comment that I hoped that you were not pushing this 10GB account as your "best" account. (Because it might be the cheapest, but NOT the most economical for local bandwidth)

I also made reference to a niche market... I took account of that in my post!

SO: I think I was justified in my comments, they are only an opinion, and you should have read them properly. I was not taking a dig at you...

:rolleyes:

[headstrong]

There still isnt any clarity as to wheather or not MrBeep will offer openbrowse as an "add on", thanks to razor for those calculations

[Turbo_Aspiration]

Ok wait.. so no1 got an email about price increases n 96/128k openbrowse being dropped?

[headstrong]

According 2 MrBeep the openbrowse proxy remains the same.. Altho i speak under correction..

[hj2k_x]

More calculations:

If a 192K-IS-2GB-28GB account costs R229 from OpenWeb. (That is 192K OpenBrowse, IS account, 2GB Intl, 28GB local)

And a IS-2GB-28GB account costs R171 from OpenWeb. (Again, IS account, 2GB Intl, 28GB local - NO OpenBrowse)

Then: The 192K OpenBROWSE package costs R58 for the 28GB of local bandwidth. (R229 - R171 = R58)

So.... If you were to purchase a 10GB local only account for R119 from OpenWeb, then you should be willing to pay R20.71 for the OpenBrowse service as an 'add-on', for those 10GB. ((R58 / 28GB) * 10GB = R20.71)

But, that will probably NOT be financially viable for OpenWeb, since they are obviously relying on Contention Ratios to make their money !!!!!

So, you will probably end up paying the full R58 for the OpenBrowse add-on for any account.

SO: The cheapest account for local only bandwidth at the moment is: The 2GB-IS-28GB account !!!!! At only R5.70 / GB !!!!! (R171 / 30GB = R5.70)

Also from OpenWeb !!!! :cool:

Indeed, thanks for clearing that up once more :)

[headstrong]

yes, yes But MrBeep hasn't agreed to offer openbrowse as an "add on" to local only...

[hj2k_x]

yes, yes But MrBeep hasn't agreed to offer openbrowse as an "add on" to local only...
Indeed. According to the calculations above i dont think it is going to be cost-effective really... You are better off with the 2gig/30 96k openbrowse one for R196...

[headstrong]

I would rather pay an extra R32 an get 192k browsing...

[hj2k_x]

or just get a webafrica topup account and use that...

[headstrong]

Webafrica is much more expensive than openweb..

The thing is, i will be using the internet on a WLAN, There will be 3 of house using the internet... Using webafrica won't help because sum clever person will download 3 gigz of movies in 1 day and skrew my cap!!!

This is why i want a local only account that allows international browsing..

[RazorSA]

Webafrica is much more expensive than openweb..

The thing is, i will be using the internet on a WLAN, There will be 3 of house using the internet... Using webafrica won't help because sum clever person will download 3 gigz of movies in 1 day and skrew my cap!!!

This is why i want a local only account that allows international browsing..
Then you should rather get all of the computers to connect to the internet using their own PPPoE dialup connection... Then you could also keep one account private, so only you can use it !!!!!

Then, you can ensure that people use the correct accounts to surf,email and download local p2p, etc !!!!!

:cool:

[headstrong]

open web only allows 2 conncurent sessions!

[MrBEEP]

I know bro. I am just justifying why we offer those.

As for OpenBrowse 96k and 128k being dropped: The price restructuring email might have been misread.

It stated that OpenBrowse will remain Unchanged, ecxept for the 3GB + OpenBrowse 192k package that changes to R269 per month.

We are still to make a decision regarding a Local Only account with OpenBrowse for surfing. It is a good idea, but i'm not sure whether there is big demand for it.

OpenBrowse currently only allows for browsing internationally.



MrBEEP,

I understand that, and I make note of that in my post.

The topic started off with the question: "Why don't u guys have a "local only" account with openbrowse?"

There was a little discussion, and then you came along and suggested that you are currently selling an account: "10GB's of FULL SPEED, Unrestricted local bandwidth for R119."

Then there was talk about adding onto that account an OpenBrowse add-on package. There followed a lot of discussion about OpenBrowse, and which account really was the cheapest.

I ended off with a little price comparison, and came to my conclusion.

Then, I made a comment that I hoped that you were not pushing this 10GB account as your "best" account. (Because it might be the cheapest, but NOT the most economical for local bandwidth)

I also made reference to a niche market... I took account of that in my post!

SO: I think I was justified in my comments, they are only an opinion, and you should have read them properly. I was not taking a dig at you...

:rolleyes:

[Turbo_Aspiration]

OpenBrowse will remain Unchanged, ecxept for the 3GB + OpenBrowse 192k package that changes to R269 per month.

Cool!
my friends always tell me i cant read :D

[hj2k_x]

We are still to make a decision regarding a Local Only account with OpenBrowse for surfing. It is a good idea, but i'm not sure whether there is big demand for it.



Any idea what kind of price we would be talking about? I think there would be demand for it... Anyone interested?

[headstrong]

Thanks MrBeep

I would definetly be interested! As purchasing a 2gig/28gig would be wasting the expensive international cap...!

I have created another thread dedicated to votes on this topic
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?p=560829#post560829