nigel07
17-08-2006, 12:40 PM
Help me decide please...
Feeling in the mood to learn a new coding language.
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Feeling in the mood to learn a new coding language.
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View Full Version : Classic ASP or ASP.net?
Chatmaster
18-08-2006, 09:21 AM
My suggestion would be to go with .net, much faster to roll out new developments and much more powerfull.
If you are a lazy bum like me,... asp there is allot more free code available :)
If you are a lazy bum like me,... asp there is allot more free code available :)
Moederloos
18-08-2006, 09:23 AM
just use PHP rather.
If you HAVE to use ASP, then consider
1) classic ASP can be written in notepad and is easy to update
2) ASP NET is a pain to update, but does have a decent IDE.
If you HAVE to use ASP, then consider
1) classic ASP can be written in notepad and is easy to update
2) ASP NET is a pain to update, but does have a decent IDE.
spiderz
18-08-2006, 09:33 AM
What do you want to program?
For Application .Net
For Web based stuff php/css/asp
:)
For Application .Net
For Web based stuff php/css/asp
:)
freeek
18-08-2006, 10:30 AM
agreed with spiderz, asp.net 2005 should be good to learn
spiderz
18-08-2006, 10:32 AM
agreed with spiderz, asp.net 2005 should be good to learn
but it's not a web application language. If you wanna do web sites, learn php and Css.
.net sites are awefully slow.
but it's not a web application language. If you wanna do web sites, learn php and Css.
.net sites are awefully slow.
GavinMannion
18-08-2006, 10:33 AM
don't even look at asp... It is a dead language.
asp.net all the way. The IDE is now free as well.
Updating is a nightmare if you don't fully grasp the concept of it, but it is a million times better than asp.
Edit: .Net sites are not slow. The first load on the first visitor is slow then it is just as fast if not faster than asp
PHP is an ugly language
asp.net all the way. The IDE is now free as well.
Updating is a nightmare if you don't fully grasp the concept of it, but it is a million times better than asp.
Edit: .Net sites are not slow. The first load on the first visitor is slow then it is just as fast if not faster than asp
PHP is an ugly language
Raithlin
18-08-2006, 10:37 AM
.net sites are awefully slow.
Not if written properly. In my experience, .net sites have been faster than ASP sites they have replaced.
It all depends how you code. Even PHP sites can be slow if not coded efficiently.
My advice? ASP.Net is a stepping stone to the entire .Net platform (You have to learn a language to write in ASP.Net - C# your best choice for sure). ASP/PHP is a stepping stone to...?
Not if written properly. In my experience, .net sites have been faster than ASP sites they have replaced.
It all depends how you code. Even PHP sites can be slow if not coded efficiently.
My advice? ASP.Net is a stepping stone to the entire .Net platform (You have to learn a language to write in ASP.Net - C# your best choice for sure). ASP/PHP is a stepping stone to...?
spiderz
18-08-2006, 10:42 AM
i have to agree, theirs more job opertunities for .net skilled people.
Chatmaster
18-08-2006, 11:34 AM
What do you want to program?
For Application .Net
For Web based stuff php/css/asp
:)
Mmmmmmm
I firmly disagree with you there... .net kicks bum on any level, application or web based. I can't believe you pulled in php as a comparison to .net, I am amazed:eek:
For Application .Net
For Web based stuff php/css/asp
:)
Mmmmmmm
I firmly disagree with you there... .net kicks bum on any level, application or web based. I can't believe you pulled in php as a comparison to .net, I am amazed:eek:
spiderz
18-08-2006, 11:39 AM
Mmmmmmm
I firmly disagree with you there... .net kicks bum on any level, application or web based. I can't believe you pulled in php as a comparison to .net, I am amazed:eek:
ok, it's old, most ppl code extreamly bad in it, but it works... :D & lotsa free code avaliable for it. (me begining to like coding in notepad, sad i know :))
but learning .Net will make you more employable. It's easier, and probibly faster to develop something new.
I firmly disagree with you there... .net kicks bum on any level, application or web based. I can't believe you pulled in php as a comparison to .net, I am amazed:eek:
ok, it's old, most ppl code extreamly bad in it, but it works... :D & lotsa free code avaliable for it. (me begining to like coding in notepad, sad i know :))
but learning .Net will make you more employable. It's easier, and probibly faster to develop something new.
Chatmaster
18-08-2006, 11:48 AM
but learning .Net will make you more employable. It's easier, and probibly faster to develop something new. That is true for SA, I fully agree with you there, but most of my buds abroad are PHP... Which is fine as php is fine. The same can be said of asp. At the end of the day to know them all is probably the best as they all have their own advantages. If you have never programmed before I suggest start with .net as it will switch on allot of lights for PHP and ASP.
Mmmmmmm, on 2nd thought why don't you just learn foxpro and design sites with foxpro... :D
Mmmmmmm, on 2nd thought why don't you just learn foxpro and design sites with foxpro... :D
spiderz
18-08-2006, 11:52 AM
Mmmmmmm, on 2nd thought why don't you just learn foxpro and design sites with foxpro... :D
grrrrrr, that like recomending frontpage !! :eek:
grrrrrr, that like recomending frontpage !! :eek:
fergus
18-08-2006, 11:53 AM
Defintely ASP.Net over classic ASP. But make sure you check out PHP first. In most cases its a better choice than MS. (Except perhaps in large enterprises here, most of which run MS products).
fergus
18-08-2006, 11:54 AM
but learning .Net will make you more employable. It's easier, and probibly faster to develop something new.
You're right about being more employable (which is why I'm now doing ASP.Net) but PHP is way easier to learn than ASP.Net and quicker to develop in.
You're right about being more employable (which is why I'm now doing ASP.Net) but PHP is way easier to learn than ASP.Net and quicker to develop in.
spiderz
18-08-2006, 11:57 AM
Learn .net, then use that knowledge to code better php apps :D
Chatmaster
18-08-2006, 12:05 PM
grrrrrr, that like recomending frontpage !! :eek:
lol
I wonder how many people did a Google on the word FoxPro, lol
lol
I wonder how many people did a Google on the word FoxPro, lol
Raithlin
18-08-2006, 12:06 PM
Mmmmmmm, on 2nd thought why don't you just learn foxpro and design sites with foxpro... :D
:eek: I'm going to find you, and I'm going to pull your appendages off one by one until you retract that thought... :D
Seriously, I was an ASP developer before .Net came out. Now my ASP skills, while valuable in learning .Net quickly (and developing efficient sites), are hardly called upon. It's .Net all the way. Not just ASP.Net either.
:eek: I'm going to find you, and I'm going to pull your appendages off one by one until you retract that thought... :D
Seriously, I was an ASP developer before .Net came out. Now my ASP skills, while valuable in learning .Net quickly (and developing efficient sites), are hardly called upon. It's .Net all the way. Not just ASP.Net either.
fergus
18-08-2006, 12:27 PM
It's .Net all the way. Not just ASP.Net either.
That's whats so cool about ASP.Net. It uses all the same libraries as the rest of the framework so its not such a jump to go to developing Winforms apps once you know ASP.Net.
That's whats so cool about ASP.Net. It uses all the same libraries as the rest of the framework so its not such a jump to go to developing Winforms apps once you know ASP.Net.
nigel07
18-08-2006, 08:13 PM
What software can be used to program in PHP? I want something with simplicity like Frontpage. I currently purchased Macromedia Dreamweaver but everything looks so congested and complex that i'm regretting spending so much cash!
I've also looked at some PHP code, it looks like a nightmare!
I'm still torn between ASP or ASP.net
By the way, does anyone have an alternative server program besides IIS to run ASP?
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I've also looked at some PHP code, it looks like a nightmare!
I'm still torn between ASP or ASP.net
By the way, does anyone have an alternative server program besides IIS to run ASP?
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nocilah
21-08-2006, 12:56 AM
i am not a asp or .net coder my any stretch of the imagination, however flash i my baby and integrating it with asp was cool but with flash 8 and .net most of my wishes came true.
.net certianly a great and powerful language - mix it with flash actionscript and you have the ability to do anything you want.
although adobe/macromedia tend to use php or cold fusion for alot of their examples.
i think iis is the best thing to use for asp, alternatives can often be buggy.
.net certianly a great and powerful language - mix it with flash actionscript and you have the ability to do anything you want.
although adobe/macromedia tend to use php or cold fusion for alot of their examples.
i think iis is the best thing to use for asp, alternatives can often be buggy.
Chatmaster
21-08-2006, 01:36 PM
Frontpage always had issues with good quality HTML coding. So I will never go back, anyway not at this stage... Dreamweaver at this stage is the closest to what I need to design websites using PHP. However with ASP.net... .Net VS2005
nigel07
23-08-2006, 11:54 PM
I've had a change of view about DW...
Been using Macromedia Dreamweaver 8 for a week now and very impressed.
I'm having trouble with the tables but i guess i will get used to it given some time.
I think it works best with ASP. Database intergration is a piece of cake as well.
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Been using Macromedia Dreamweaver 8 for a week now and very impressed.
I'm having trouble with the tables but i guess i will get used to it given some time.
I think it works best with ASP. Database intergration is a piece of cake as well.
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freeek
25-08-2006, 07:48 PM
asp .net 2005 does not use the normal IIS, check it out it much easiar to setup
nigel07
26-08-2006, 12:41 AM
What do i need to install to run asp.net?
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