ghoti
20-03-2007, 04:15 PM
one thought there. didn't god gave the law unto moses in the first place ?
:D :D :D
:D :D :D
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LoneGunman
20-03-2007, 05:03 PM
hmm, if god condemned the Snake to crawl on its belly, for handing
information to Adam and Eve - how did the Snake get around BEFORE
this? :P
information to Adam and Eve - how did the Snake get around BEFORE
this? :P
ghoti
20-03-2007, 05:04 PM
hmm, if god condemned the Snake to crawl on its belly, for handing
information to Adam and Eve - how did the Snake get around BEFORE
this? :P
It used to bounce around... oh those were the days.... I thought everyone knew this. :cool: hehe
information to Adam and Eve - how did the Snake get around BEFORE
this? :P
It used to bounce around... oh those were the days.... I thought everyone knew this. :cool: hehe
NBC
20-03-2007, 05:16 PM
one thought there. didn't god gave the law unto moses in the first place ?
True, yes. Again, that was in the O.T. That is one of the very reasons Christ came, to release us from sin. And as Mat 22:37-40 explains, even that law and the Prophets is upheld in the two commandments given in the new testament. Because if you can follow just those two, the rest will follow automatically and you won't commit sins like adultery (2nd commandment in N.T.).
Even I am not sure about the snake. Maybe it had feet, who knows?! Shouldn't the TOE solve this for you?
True, yes. Again, that was in the O.T. That is one of the very reasons Christ came, to release us from sin. And as Mat 22:37-40 explains, even that law and the Prophets is upheld in the two commandments given in the new testament. Because if you can follow just those two, the rest will follow automatically and you won't commit sins like adultery (2nd commandment in N.T.).
Even I am not sure about the snake. Maybe it had feet, who knows?! Shouldn't the TOE solve this for you?
Mr TB
20-03-2007, 05:32 PM
As we are back in the Garden again look what the serpent has done:
There was 2 trees planted in the middle of the garden.
GEN 2v9 The Lord God made all sorts of trees grow up from the ground—trees that were beautiful and that produced delicious fruit. In the middle of the garden he placed the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Why was the woman confronted with the "Tree of good and evil"?
GEN 3v3 “It’s only the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden that we are not allowed to eat. God said, ‘You must not eat it or even touch it; if you do, you will die.’”
GEN3v4 “You won’t die!” the serpent replied to the woman. 5 “God knows that your eyes will be opened as soon as you eat it, and you will be like God, knowing both good and evil.”
The serpent never refers to the tree of life? Why not, because he is only interested in the destruction of mankind!
He is not even trying to turn God into a liar...
GEN4v22 Then the Lord God said, “Look, the human beings[e] have become like us, knowing both good and evil. What if they reach out, take fruit from the tree of life, and eat it? Then they will live forever!”
Even after sinning mankind would have everlasting life if they ate from the Tree of Life!
If the serpent or satan's war was against God he would first make sure the woman has everlasting life!, let her then eat from the Tree of Life and then deceive her to eat from the Tree of Knowledge and Evil....By doing it in that sequence he turns God into a liar but he does not care!
Satan's war however is not against God, that war he has lost in heaven already. His war is against the Crown of God's creation that is mankind...
There was 2 trees planted in the middle of the garden.
GEN 2v9 The Lord God made all sorts of trees grow up from the ground—trees that were beautiful and that produced delicious fruit. In the middle of the garden he placed the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Why was the woman confronted with the "Tree of good and evil"?
GEN 3v3 “It’s only the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden that we are not allowed to eat. God said, ‘You must not eat it or even touch it; if you do, you will die.’”
GEN3v4 “You won’t die!” the serpent replied to the woman. 5 “God knows that your eyes will be opened as soon as you eat it, and you will be like God, knowing both good and evil.”
The serpent never refers to the tree of life? Why not, because he is only interested in the destruction of mankind!
He is not even trying to turn God into a liar...
GEN4v22 Then the Lord God said, “Look, the human beings[e] have become like us, knowing both good and evil. What if they reach out, take fruit from the tree of life, and eat it? Then they will live forever!”
Even after sinning mankind would have everlasting life if they ate from the Tree of Life!
If the serpent or satan's war was against God he would first make sure the woman has everlasting life!, let her then eat from the Tree of Life and then deceive her to eat from the Tree of Knowledge and Evil....By doing it in that sequence he turns God into a liar but he does not care!
Satan's war however is not against God, that war he has lost in heaven already. His war is against the Crown of God's creation that is mankind...
LoneGunman
20-03-2007, 10:14 PM
good grief, people who honestly believe in some gigantic invisible ghostly fat fairy, and who combine this psychotic delusion with a willingness to
quote from a human-written-and-chosen collection of old writings, as if this is actual 'reality', shouldn't be allowed to breed, or have any
control over children, animals, or heavy machinery.
there are drugs these days for this sort of thing.
:P
quote from a human-written-and-chosen collection of old writings, as if this is actual 'reality', shouldn't be allowed to breed, or have any
control over children, animals, or heavy machinery.
there are drugs these days for this sort of thing.
:P
NBC
20-03-2007, 11:46 PM
Your statements are amusing. You keep reverting back to fairies... makes me wonder if you're capable of believing in anything or anyone...?
Pr⊕phet
29-03-2007, 08:44 PM
i believe in the force ;)
FlyingPika
29-03-2007, 10:35 PM
That is why there is a standing challenge for an example of a Christian that does follow the whole book.
Jesus.
The bible tells us every1 else sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, hence the the forgiveness from sin.
When you are before God on Judgment Day, he will not ask you about other people sins, only yours.
And btw so many people call themselves Chrsitians. I know people who dont believe Jesus came to earth, but call themselves Christians. God knows who his sheep are, hes not fooled by hypocrites.
Jesus.
The bible tells us every1 else sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, hence the the forgiveness from sin.
When you are before God on Judgment Day, he will not ask you about other people sins, only yours.
And btw so many people call themselves Chrsitians. I know people who dont believe Jesus came to earth, but call themselves Christians. God knows who his sheep are, hes not fooled by hypocrites.
PostmanPot
29-03-2007, 10:37 PM
God knows who his sheep are
:D
:D
Mr TB
30-03-2007, 08:55 AM
IN RESPONSE TO POSTMANPOT:
"He's not fooled by hypocrites."
Let fly with the comments....:D
"He's not fooled by hypocrites."
Let fly with the comments....:D
PostmanPot
30-03-2007, 10:54 AM
Baa baa baa.
ThurisazCobra
01-04-2007, 03:01 PM
You know, as a Satanist myself it doesn't really bother me either way. I have enjoyed the vigour with which everyone has engaged on the topic. All standing out for your own side. It's actually very Satanic in itself, defying all others so as to stand true to one's self.
LoneGunman, I am interested in your stark seperation of Atheists and Satanists in your initial post. There is a myriad of different denominations and factions in Satanism. Not all Satanists believe in/pray to/worship an actual being called... SATAN. In fact Modern LaVeyan Satanism is utterly Atheistic. For modern Satanists (LaVeyan and otherwise), Satan is an ideal, a principle upon which to model one's life; the principle upon which I model my own life. The traditional and spiritual Satanists are those who worship the being, Father Satan. There is a difference in the some of the ritual and philosophy. However, the attitudes are very similar. Also there is far less hatred for Christianity in the Modern Satanist then the Traditional.
One of the nine Satanic sins is ignorance. This quality is abhorred within the Satanic community. I find little reason to engage with anyone on the subject of Satanism until they have made efforts to acquire knowledge - read a book or a website, there is an immense amount of information out there. However, all this said, if people choose to keep their eyes closed to the Left Hand Path, it is all the more excellent for us on this side of the fence. We do what we do best in the dark. We do what we do and we do it whether you are aware of it or not.
As much as what we do may scare some, the reality is that if you knew what we actually did, you would welcome us as just another human being with a slightly different flavor.
I am fascinated by the interperatation some have of what Satanists do. I find myself giggling. A minute portion of the Satanic community engages in any violence whatsoever. The Eleven Satanic Statements say that harming animals and children is not at all permitted. One of the Keys of Enoch, clearly states that use of substances is wasted energy. The fantasies of the sex, drugs and kitties blood orgies we are having, are entertaining yet entirely false.
I have read the Christian Bible, it is worth the effort. Will the Christians out there perhaps read mine...?
LoneGunman, I am interested in your stark seperation of Atheists and Satanists in your initial post. There is a myriad of different denominations and factions in Satanism. Not all Satanists believe in/pray to/worship an actual being called... SATAN. In fact Modern LaVeyan Satanism is utterly Atheistic. For modern Satanists (LaVeyan and otherwise), Satan is an ideal, a principle upon which to model one's life; the principle upon which I model my own life. The traditional and spiritual Satanists are those who worship the being, Father Satan. There is a difference in the some of the ritual and philosophy. However, the attitudes are very similar. Also there is far less hatred for Christianity in the Modern Satanist then the Traditional.
One of the nine Satanic sins is ignorance. This quality is abhorred within the Satanic community. I find little reason to engage with anyone on the subject of Satanism until they have made efforts to acquire knowledge - read a book or a website, there is an immense amount of information out there. However, all this said, if people choose to keep their eyes closed to the Left Hand Path, it is all the more excellent for us on this side of the fence. We do what we do best in the dark. We do what we do and we do it whether you are aware of it or not.
As much as what we do may scare some, the reality is that if you knew what we actually did, you would welcome us as just another human being with a slightly different flavor.
I am fascinated by the interperatation some have of what Satanists do. I find myself giggling. A minute portion of the Satanic community engages in any violence whatsoever. The Eleven Satanic Statements say that harming animals and children is not at all permitted. One of the Keys of Enoch, clearly states that use of substances is wasted energy. The fantasies of the sex, drugs and kitties blood orgies we are having, are entertaining yet entirely false.
I have read the Christian Bible, it is worth the effort. Will the Christians out there perhaps read mine...?
ghoti
01-04-2007, 03:04 PM
I didnt know satanists knew how to use computers. I thought they all drank meths and sniffed glue at the local graveyard.
Mr TB
01-04-2007, 08:58 PM
I didnt know satanists knew how to use computers. I thought they all drank meths and sniffed glue at the local graveyard.
Mate, maybe you are a bit narrow-minded like most non-religious people...
Mate, maybe you are a bit narrow-minded like most non-religious people...
Dr Seuss
03-04-2007, 02:11 AM
Thurisaz - I must admit I was fascinated by the posts that Lonegunman put up (from the Satanic Bible). As a matter of fact, they made so much sense that I had a good discussion going as to how practical the 11 Statements were.
We all at some stage want to follow them, and in some cases it would benefit most people to do so. It would solve a lot of problems in the world. Unfortunately I find no room for compassion and love in some of them, two aspects of my existence which I would not be here without. Now, I realise that I have limited knowledge based on what I have read (which would probably make me ignorant according to "the Satanic Community"), but I just can't tie it in with spiritual progress of any kind. La Vey's scientific/spiritual precepts may be quite sound, but there's an underlying hatred of humanity that I find unsettling.
Comments welcome.
We all at some stage want to follow them, and in some cases it would benefit most people to do so. It would solve a lot of problems in the world. Unfortunately I find no room for compassion and love in some of them, two aspects of my existence which I would not be here without. Now, I realise that I have limited knowledge based on what I have read (which would probably make me ignorant according to "the Satanic Community"), but I just can't tie it in with spiritual progress of any kind. La Vey's scientific/spiritual precepts may be quite sound, but there's an underlying hatred of humanity that I find unsettling.
Comments welcome.
Mr TB
03-04-2007, 01:27 PM
FIRST STATEMENT:
"1. satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!"
Communism, Fascism, Socialism, and Capitalism.
All four structures represent indulgence and failed or is failing.
Mugabe, Pol-Pot, Mao, Hitler, Boneparte, Amin, Stalin etc…
All represent indulgence and failed or are failing.
Fornication, homosexuality, obesity, etc…
All represent indulgence and failed or are failing..
It is quite clear that the first statement of satanism has only one intention destroy mankind…
"1. satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!"
Communism, Fascism, Socialism, and Capitalism.
All four structures represent indulgence and failed or is failing.
Mugabe, Pol-Pot, Mao, Hitler, Boneparte, Amin, Stalin etc…
All represent indulgence and failed or are failing.
Fornication, homosexuality, obesity, etc…
All represent indulgence and failed or are failing..
It is quite clear that the first statement of satanism has only one intention destroy mankind…
ghoti
03-04-2007, 01:41 PM
FIRST STATEMENT:
"1. satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!"
Communism, Fascism, Socialism, and Capitalism.
All four structures represent indulgence and failed or is failing.
Mugabe, Pol-Pot, Mao, Hitler, Boneparte, Amin, Stalin etc…
All represent indulgence and failed or are failing.
Fornication, homosexuality, obesity, etc…
All represent indulgence and failed or are failing..
It is quite clear that the first statement of satanism has only one intention destroy mankind…
Schizotypal personality disorder, or simply schizotypal disorder, is a personality disorder that is characterized by a need for social isolation, odd behaviour and thinking, and often unconventional beliefs such as being convinced of having extra sensory abilities.
A mnemonic that can be used to remember the criteria for schizotypal personality disorder is ME PECULIAR[2][3]:
* M - magical thinking that influences behavior, superstitiousness or the paranormal
* E - eccentric behavior or appearance
* P - paranoid ideation
* E - experiences unusual perceptions
* C - constricted affect
* U - unusual thinking & speech
* L - lacks friends
* I - ideas of reference
* A - anxiety (socially)
* R - rule out psychotic disorders & pervasive developmental disorder
Dodo/Mr TB, I think you might want to read up on this more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizotypal_personality_disorder
Seriously, go see a proper doctor.
"1. satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!"
Communism, Fascism, Socialism, and Capitalism.
All four structures represent indulgence and failed or is failing.
Mugabe, Pol-Pot, Mao, Hitler, Boneparte, Amin, Stalin etc…
All represent indulgence and failed or are failing.
Fornication, homosexuality, obesity, etc…
All represent indulgence and failed or are failing..
It is quite clear that the first statement of satanism has only one intention destroy mankind…
Schizotypal personality disorder, or simply schizotypal disorder, is a personality disorder that is characterized by a need for social isolation, odd behaviour and thinking, and often unconventional beliefs such as being convinced of having extra sensory abilities.
A mnemonic that can be used to remember the criteria for schizotypal personality disorder is ME PECULIAR[2][3]:
* M - magical thinking that influences behavior, superstitiousness or the paranormal
* E - eccentric behavior or appearance
* P - paranoid ideation
* E - experiences unusual perceptions
* C - constricted affect
* U - unusual thinking & speech
* L - lacks friends
* I - ideas of reference
* A - anxiety (socially)
* R - rule out psychotic disorders & pervasive developmental disorder
Dodo/Mr TB, I think you might want to read up on this more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizotypal_personality_disorder
Seriously, go see a proper doctor.
Mr TB
03-04-2007, 04:16 PM
Schizotypal personality disorder, or simply schizotypal disorder, is a personality disorder that is characterized by a need for social isolation, odd behaviour and thinking, and often unconventional beliefs such as being convinced of having extra sensory abilities.
A mnemonic that can be used to remember the criteria for schizotypal personality disorder is ME PECULIAR[2][3]:
* M - magical thinking that influences behavior, superstitiousness or the paranormal
* E - eccentric behavior or appearance
* P - paranoid ideation
* E - experiences unusual perceptions
* C - constricted affect
* U - unusual thinking & speech
* L - lacks friends
* I - ideas of reference
* A - anxiety (socially)
* R - rule out psychotic disorders & pervasive developmental disorder
Dodo/Mr TB, I think you might want to read up on this more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizotypal_personality_disorder
Seriously, go see a proper doctor.
Maybe your perception of reality is quite perverted.
Any one of you watched channel 69 on DSTV late last night?
Well it carried the true story of the Green River Killer.
He was a serial killer, killed 48 women before he was caught. As he was on his kiling spree he would go back and even rape the corpses over and over...
He pleaded guilty on all charges of 1st degree murder to avoid the death penalty. Then the families of the diseased were allowed to have their say...
They expressed their hatred towards him and he sat there listening not even flinching, but then one man stood up Mr Rule , He said it is difficult for him but God forgave the killer and so does he, forgiveness broke down the killer he , he cried and apologised. God was the only one able to touch him...
A mnemonic that can be used to remember the criteria for schizotypal personality disorder is ME PECULIAR[2][3]:
* M - magical thinking that influences behavior, superstitiousness or the paranormal
* E - eccentric behavior or appearance
* P - paranoid ideation
* E - experiences unusual perceptions
* C - constricted affect
* U - unusual thinking & speech
* L - lacks friends
* I - ideas of reference
* A - anxiety (socially)
* R - rule out psychotic disorders & pervasive developmental disorder
Dodo/Mr TB, I think you might want to read up on this more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizotypal_personality_disorder
Seriously, go see a proper doctor.
Maybe your perception of reality is quite perverted.
Any one of you watched channel 69 on DSTV late last night?
Well it carried the true story of the Green River Killer.
He was a serial killer, killed 48 women before he was caught. As he was on his kiling spree he would go back and even rape the corpses over and over...
He pleaded guilty on all charges of 1st degree murder to avoid the death penalty. Then the families of the diseased were allowed to have their say...
They expressed their hatred towards him and he sat there listening not even flinching, but then one man stood up Mr Rule , He said it is difficult for him but God forgave the killer and so does he, forgiveness broke down the killer he , he cried and apologised. God was the only one able to touch him...
ghoti
03-04-2007, 04:19 PM
I claim Mr TB is using (I just learnt about this one in the other thread)the Chewbacca Defense, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_Defense
Your story reminds me of that quote I read here:
"I used to pray to God for a bike and then I realised that's not how it worked. So I stole one and prayed for forgiveness"
Your story reminds me of that quote I read here:
"I used to pray to God for a bike and then I realised that's not how it worked. So I stole one and prayed for forgiveness"
Mr TB
03-04-2007, 04:33 PM
I claim Mr TB is using (I just learnt about this one in the other thread)the Chewbacca Defense, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_Defense
Your story reminds me of that quote I read here:
"I used to pray to God for a bike and then I realised that's not how it worked. So I stole one and prayed for forgiveness"
You seem to support rascist lying murders...not much better are you?
Your story reminds me of that quote I read here:
"I used to pray to God for a bike and then I realised that's not how it worked. So I stole one and prayed for forgiveness"
You seem to support rascist lying murders...not much better are you?
texo
03-04-2007, 04:36 PM
Ad hominem.
Look it up.
Learn.
Come back.
Apologise.
Look it up.
Learn.
Come back.
Apologise.
Mr TB
03-04-2007, 04:41 PM
Ad hominem.
Look it up.
Learn.
Come back.
Apologise.
I am bothered the 48 women he actually killed that you are treating heartless and even with less remorse referring to Cochran and his rascist gang...
Look it up.
Learn.
Come back.
Apologise.
I am bothered the 48 women he actually killed that you are treating heartless and even with less remorse referring to Cochran and his rascist gang...
noxibox
03-04-2007, 05:13 PM
No, lying is against my religion.
Mr TB
03-04-2007, 05:21 PM
No, lying is against my religion.
Is lying against your "religion of evolusion". Then why are you teaching it as fact to children ?
Is lying against your "religion of evolusion". Then why are you teaching it as fact to children ?
NoRulez
03-04-2007, 05:36 PM
Why is it that all religions prey on fear?
Like a quote from a movie from a few years ago:
Muslims say if I don't believe in Allah, I'll go to hell
Christians say if I don't believe in Christ, I'll go to hell
Any way you look at it, I'm fu*ked...
So if you don't believe in satan you go to heaven?
All a big money making scheme... :cool:
Like a quote from a movie from a few years ago:
Muslims say if I don't believe in Allah, I'll go to hell
Christians say if I don't believe in Christ, I'll go to hell
Any way you look at it, I'm fu*ked...
So if you don't believe in satan you go to heaven?
All a big money making scheme... :cool:
Mr TB
03-04-2007, 07:04 PM
Why is it that all religions prey on fear?
Like a quote from a movie from a few years ago:
So if you don't believe in satan you go to heaven?
All a big money making scheme... :cool:
It's funny... you have been offered a gift, it is free... you can accept it or reject it... the choice is yours...it has nothing to do with fear...
Like a quote from a movie from a few years ago:
So if you don't believe in satan you go to heaven?
All a big money making scheme... :cool:
It's funny... you have been offered a gift, it is free... you can accept it or reject it... the choice is yours...it has nothing to do with fear...
Dr Seuss
03-04-2007, 07:11 PM
I didn't mean to encourage him, realy I didn't. :eek:
Neo
03-04-2007, 07:30 PM
Is lying against your "religion of evolusion". Then why are you teaching it as fact to children ?
Although not complete by far, there is MUCH more evidence for evolution than there is for the events of the Old Testament, Jesus and the Gospels put together.
So on a relative scale, who is the one teaching lies?
There is little proof outside the Gospels that Jesus even lived, let alone doing the things we read about, so why are you teaching it as fact? Why are you lying to children?
And even if Jesus existed (there is a slim chance he did), the religion Paul started is far removed from what Jesus would have wanted as a Jew (for example upholding the old laws), so why are you teaching this Pauline version of Christianity as fact? Why are you lying to children?
The theory of Evolution tries to make sense of a huge amount of evidence. What you are doing is teaching a fairytale, with no FACTUAL base, as the truth.
You should be ashamed.
Although not complete by far, there is MUCH more evidence for evolution than there is for the events of the Old Testament, Jesus and the Gospels put together.
So on a relative scale, who is the one teaching lies?
There is little proof outside the Gospels that Jesus even lived, let alone doing the things we read about, so why are you teaching it as fact? Why are you lying to children?
And even if Jesus existed (there is a slim chance he did), the religion Paul started is far removed from what Jesus would have wanted as a Jew (for example upholding the old laws), so why are you teaching this Pauline version of Christianity as fact? Why are you lying to children?
The theory of Evolution tries to make sense of a huge amount of evidence. What you are doing is teaching a fairytale, with no FACTUAL base, as the truth.
You should be ashamed.
Mr TB
03-04-2007, 07:49 PM
Although not complete by far, there is MUCH more evidence for evolution than there is for the events of the Old Testament, Jesus and the Gospels put together.
So on a relative scale, who is the one teaching lies?
There is little proof outside the Gospels that Jesus even lived, let alone doing the things we read about, so why are you teaching it as fact? Why are you lying to children?
And even if Jesus existed (there is a slim chance he did), the religion Paul started is far removed from what Jesus would have wanted as a Jew (for example upholding the old laws), so why are you teaching this Pauline version of Christianity as fact? Why are you lying to children?
The theory of Evolution tries to make sense of a huge amount of evidence. What you are doing is teaching a fairytale, with no FACTUAL base, as the truth.
You should be ashamed.
Due to your overall knowledge of the subjects at hand I can only refer to a certain post...
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?p=965491#post965491
So on a relative scale, who is the one teaching lies?
There is little proof outside the Gospels that Jesus even lived, let alone doing the things we read about, so why are you teaching it as fact? Why are you lying to children?
And even if Jesus existed (there is a slim chance he did), the religion Paul started is far removed from what Jesus would have wanted as a Jew (for example upholding the old laws), so why are you teaching this Pauline version of Christianity as fact? Why are you lying to children?
The theory of Evolution tries to make sense of a huge amount of evidence. What you are doing is teaching a fairytale, with no FACTUAL base, as the truth.
You should be ashamed.
Due to your overall knowledge of the subjects at hand I can only refer to a certain post...
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?p=965491#post965491
Tux
04-04-2007, 12:50 AM
Mr TB, you just keep digging that hole you're bigger n bigger. Might I suggest you use explosives? It would save you a lot of time and work. Specially once you hit bedrock. You make about as much sense to most people as a lawnmover in a symphony orchestra
Neo
04-04-2007, 12:51 AM
Due to your overall knowledge of the subjects at hand I can only refer to a certain post...
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?p=965491#post965491
Yes, I read your silly post (or rather your plagiarism of someone else's work) and did respond since you asked.
But we're not talking about how highly qualified you must be to interpret the so called "infallible word of god" (would have thought god, in his infinite wisdom, would not require us to have 10 or more degrees before we can read the bible??), rather I mentioned the fact that there is no proof for most of the events described in the bible, outside using the bible itself as proof.
To pitch it at a level you've probably read; the story of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs must be true. After all, it's been written down and is still a best seller to this day. Therefore it is true.
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?p=965491#post965491
Yes, I read your silly post (or rather your plagiarism of someone else's work) and did respond since you asked.
But we're not talking about how highly qualified you must be to interpret the so called "infallible word of god" (would have thought god, in his infinite wisdom, would not require us to have 10 or more degrees before we can read the bible??), rather I mentioned the fact that there is no proof for most of the events described in the bible, outside using the bible itself as proof.
To pitch it at a level you've probably read; the story of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs must be true. After all, it's been written down and is still a best seller to this day. Therefore it is true.
Pr⊕phet
04-04-2007, 01:10 PM
(there was something to post, but then i got stage fright)
LoneGunman
06-06-2007, 03:03 PM
"Dear Diary
My plan for world domination is working. There are still many humans who believe that utterly insane holy big ghost story. There are even more who seriously believe ancient scribbles assembled by various groups with vested interests, have some sort of spiritual connection to reality.
They even have built buildings as pseudo amplifiers, where these believers (who dont believe in ghosts at any other time) all go and sing songs to this big invisible ghost, and ask the ghost to look after them. Obviously, given that he doesnt exist, and never has, their lives are pretty vile and awful.
The funny thing is, they manage to persuade themselves that this total absence of decent intervention, is somehow proof of the invisible sugar plum fairy's existence in the first place.
How ever did they manage to evolve to the point of sowing seeds and developing libraries? I don't know.
What the heck, it keeps them from reaching their potential, and helping each other and unifying as a species - so bring on more of this so-called 'religion' stuff..
-Leviathan
My plan for world domination is working. There are still many humans who believe that utterly insane holy big ghost story. There are even more who seriously believe ancient scribbles assembled by various groups with vested interests, have some sort of spiritual connection to reality.
They even have built buildings as pseudo amplifiers, where these believers (who dont believe in ghosts at any other time) all go and sing songs to this big invisible ghost, and ask the ghost to look after them. Obviously, given that he doesnt exist, and never has, their lives are pretty vile and awful.
The funny thing is, they manage to persuade themselves that this total absence of decent intervention, is somehow proof of the invisible sugar plum fairy's existence in the first place.
How ever did they manage to evolve to the point of sowing seeds and developing libraries? I don't know.
What the heck, it keeps them from reaching their potential, and helping each other and unifying as a species - so bring on more of this so-called 'religion' stuff..
-Leviathan
Xarog
06-06-2007, 03:16 PM
"Dear Diary
My plan for world domination is working. There are still many humans who believe that utterly insane holy big ghost story. There are even more who seriously believe ancient scribbles assembled by various groups with vested interests, have some sort of spiritual connection to reality.
They even have built buildings as pseudo amplifiers, where these believers (who dont believe in ghosts at any other time) all go and sing songs to this big invisible ghost, and ask the ghost to look after them. Obviously, given that he doesnt exist, and never has, their lives are pretty vile and awful.
The funny thing is, they manage to persuade themselves that this total absence of decent intervention, is somehow proof of the invisible sugar plum fairy's existence in the first place.
How ever did they manage to evolve to the point of sowing seeds and developing libraries? I don't know.
What the heck, it keeps them from reaching their potential, and helping each other and unifying as a species - so bring on more of this so-called 'religion' stuff..
-Leviathan
Rofl. :D
My plan for world domination is working. There are still many humans who believe that utterly insane holy big ghost story. There are even more who seriously believe ancient scribbles assembled by various groups with vested interests, have some sort of spiritual connection to reality.
They even have built buildings as pseudo amplifiers, where these believers (who dont believe in ghosts at any other time) all go and sing songs to this big invisible ghost, and ask the ghost to look after them. Obviously, given that he doesnt exist, and never has, their lives are pretty vile and awful.
The funny thing is, they manage to persuade themselves that this total absence of decent intervention, is somehow proof of the invisible sugar plum fairy's existence in the first place.
How ever did they manage to evolve to the point of sowing seeds and developing libraries? I don't know.
What the heck, it keeps them from reaching their potential, and helping each other and unifying as a species - so bring on more of this so-called 'religion' stuff..
-Leviathan
Rofl. :D
Pr⊕phet
06-06-2007, 10:41 PM
must be the from the FMS 'dead spagetti strands' found
FlyingPika
08-06-2007, 12:48 AM
Although not complete by far, there is MUCH more evidence for evolution than there is for the events of the Old Testament, Jesus and the Gospels put together.
Since we playing this game. There is NO evidence for evolution because it didnt happen. Just people trying to create something they can call evidence for their theory. When evolutionist go hunting, the goto try find evidence to back up their theory, not look at the evidence and construct theories around the evidence.
So on a relative scale, who is the one teaching lies?
Well it will be very clear to you one day.
There is little proof outside the Gospels that Jesus even lived, let alone doing the things we read about, so why are you teaching it as fact? Why are you lying to children?
The Chinese recorded the sky went black at the same time Jesus was crucified. There are two historical accounts from roman soldiers about a miraculous man named Jesus. There is scripture. There is the witness of the Holy Spirit. And he teaches it as fact because it is.
And even if Jesus existed (there is a slim chance he did), the religion Paul started is far removed from what Jesus would have wanted as a Jew (for example upholding the old laws), so why are you teaching this Pauline version of Christianity as fact? Why are you lying to children?
When people start laying their sick on the street so that your mere shadow heals them (like Paul), then you may start making claims about God. Otherwise it seems obvious to me that you dont anything about God, And Paul did.
The theory of Evolution tries to make sense of a huge amount of evidence. What you are doing is teaching a fairytale, with no FACTUAL base, as the truth.
Unfortunately it doesnt change the fact that it is wrong. I pray you may receive the truth one day.
You should be ashamed.
I will leave you with a quote from a great man of God who happens to be Paul:
Romans 1:16 (King James Version)16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Since we playing this game. There is NO evidence for evolution because it didnt happen. Just people trying to create something they can call evidence for their theory. When evolutionist go hunting, the goto try find evidence to back up their theory, not look at the evidence and construct theories around the evidence.
So on a relative scale, who is the one teaching lies?
Well it will be very clear to you one day.
There is little proof outside the Gospels that Jesus even lived, let alone doing the things we read about, so why are you teaching it as fact? Why are you lying to children?
The Chinese recorded the sky went black at the same time Jesus was crucified. There are two historical accounts from roman soldiers about a miraculous man named Jesus. There is scripture. There is the witness of the Holy Spirit. And he teaches it as fact because it is.
And even if Jesus existed (there is a slim chance he did), the religion Paul started is far removed from what Jesus would have wanted as a Jew (for example upholding the old laws), so why are you teaching this Pauline version of Christianity as fact? Why are you lying to children?
When people start laying their sick on the street so that your mere shadow heals them (like Paul), then you may start making claims about God. Otherwise it seems obvious to me that you dont anything about God, And Paul did.
The theory of Evolution tries to make sense of a huge amount of evidence. What you are doing is teaching a fairytale, with no FACTUAL base, as the truth.
Unfortunately it doesnt change the fact that it is wrong. I pray you may receive the truth one day.
You should be ashamed.
I will leave you with a quote from a great man of God who happens to be Paul:
Romans 1:16 (King James Version)16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
FlyingPika
08-06-2007, 12:50 AM
At the risk of stating the obvious, with regards to the thread topic:
satanism is not good for you, it gets you into hell, which is actually very bad for you.
Hope this helps!
satanism is not good for you, it gets you into hell, which is actually very bad for you.
Hope this helps!
Claymore
08-06-2007, 10:32 AM
Since we playing this game. There is NO evidence for evolution because it didnt happen. Just people trying to create something they can call evidence for their theory. When evolutionist go hunting, the goto try find evidence to back up their theory, not look at the evidence and construct theories around the evidence.
Sorry, I'm afraid that's not the way it works. Darwin and Wallace didn't just suck the concept of evolution out of their thumbs - they came up with it to explain their observations.
As for no evidence for evolution...there is so much evidence it's overwhelming. From anatomy, cladistics, fossils, genetics, lab experiments, observation...and it all correlates.
The Chinese recorded the sky went black at the same time Jesus was crucified. There are two historical accounts from roman soldiers about a miraculous man named Jesus. There is scripture. There is the witness of the Holy Spirit. And he teaches it as fact because it is.
Got references for those?
Sorry, I'm afraid that's not the way it works. Darwin and Wallace didn't just suck the concept of evolution out of their thumbs - they came up with it to explain their observations.
As for no evidence for evolution...there is so much evidence it's overwhelming. From anatomy, cladistics, fossils, genetics, lab experiments, observation...and it all correlates.
The Chinese recorded the sky went black at the same time Jesus was crucified. There are two historical accounts from roman soldiers about a miraculous man named Jesus. There is scripture. There is the witness of the Holy Spirit. And he teaches it as fact because it is.
Got references for those?
Pr⊕phet
11-06-2007, 07:02 AM
anyone actually here know the different satanisms ?
cyghost
11-06-2007, 10:39 AM
I believe the difference is between Devilworship and Satanism. Not sure of there are various "cults" in Satanism though. I read the Satanic Bible by Anton Le Vey and there is a lot to be said for their philosophy. They do not believe in Satan as a being and I find it strange that they insist in calling themselves Satanists though.
meh ~ they're all nuts imho
meh ~ they're all nuts imho
Pr⊕phet
11-06-2007, 07:54 PM
care to post the base believe from it ?... to lazy to goog it ;)
cyghost
11-06-2007, 08:44 PM
La Vey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Szandor_LaVey) and his church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism) in a nutshell.
Screw google, wiki for the win!! :D
Screw google, wiki for the win!! :D
STS
13-10-2009, 10:17 AM
dumb
STS
13-10-2009, 10:19 AM
dumb dumb dumb
fivelza
13-10-2009, 10:31 AM
Why, oh why resurrect a thread that is so old!
STS
13-10-2009, 10:33 AM
i'm stupid! forgive me! *sobs*
fivelza
13-10-2009, 12:24 PM
i'm stupid! forgive me! *sobs*
There, there all is forgiven... ;)
There, there all is forgiven... ;)
Pr⊕phet
13-10-2009, 01:10 PM
There, there all is forgiven... ;)
i can haz cheezburgrz ?
i can haz cheezburgrz ?
Pr⊕phet
08-05-2010, 08:15 PM
/casts necrorism
the_don46
08-05-2010, 11:30 PM
You haven't seen the darkest hour of being into satanism. If you had, you wouldn't be posting this. You do realise that part of the ritual of satanism is raping and sacrificing new born babies? Please think before you post topics on which you have absolutely no clue you poser. In fact, please just leave the internet and never come back. Thanks.
I agree this topic shouldn't have been started and probably should have been removed a long time ago. Perhaps all religious topics should be removed? Most fighting arises from religion.
However, you miss the entire point of his reason to post - freedom of speech. I don't think you can make the assumption that he's a poser or for a religion or group that condones raping babies, skinning cats or whatever else happens.
The best result from any argument or debate is usually due to objective opinions or facts (not emotional outbursts).
I agree this topic shouldn't have been started and probably should have been removed a long time ago. Perhaps all religious topics should be removed? Most fighting arises from religion.
However, you miss the entire point of his reason to post - freedom of speech. I don't think you can make the assumption that he's a poser or for a religion or group that condones raping babies, skinning cats or whatever else happens.
The best result from any argument or debate is usually due to objective opinions or facts (not emotional outbursts).
undesign
08-05-2010, 11:55 PM
I agree with freedom of speech but anybody who starts a topic of satanism better look hard into his facts. There is no glory or debate in occult. This is one religion that we don't need to debate on this forum, or any forum.
LaVeyan Satanism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism) - what do you say Hatman? At the very least you should read it - to be a Glorious White Knight of the Most Holy Order surely you must know the enemy's strengths and weaknesses, no?
You seem to dislike the muslims and satanists in equal measures tonight...
LaVeyan Satanism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism) - what do you say Hatman? At the very least you should read it - to be a Glorious White Knight of the Most Holy Order surely you must know the enemy's strengths and weaknesses, no?
You seem to dislike the muslims and satanists in equal measures tonight...
Nerhzelok
08-05-2010, 11:58 PM
Satanism is gooood... for.. MEEEEEE!!! ^-^
DeadCore
09-05-2010, 12:03 AM
RAS RAS RAS :mad:
undesign
09-05-2010, 12:05 AM
which post? :)
Aquilla
09-05-2010, 12:09 AM
How can satanism be good? They believe in bringing down the religion of Christians. How can that be good when you want to abolish another religious group.
Reason for OP post, either your parents aren't giving you enough attention, or you are being bullied, or you are just a emo nemo seeking negative attention. 99% of the acts by satanist, that have been recorded by police , have been sick crimes such as offering other humans etc.
Bad, rather be a sensei and be good
Reason for OP post, either your parents aren't giving you enough attention, or you are being bullied, or you are just a emo nemo seeking negative attention. 99% of the acts by satanist, that have been recorded by police , have been sick crimes such as offering other humans etc.
Bad, rather be a sensei and be good
undesign
09-05-2010, 12:11 AM
How can satanism be good? They believe in bringing down the religion of Christians. How can that be good when you want to abolish another religious group.
Don't you want the same?
Don't you want the same?
Pr⊕phet
09-05-2010, 04:49 PM
How can satanism be good? They believe in bringing down the religion of Christians. How can that be good when you want to abolish another religious group.Don't you want the same?
hmmm isn't that the aim of all other religions. i believe in X and your belief in Y is false and you are going to hell.
hmmm isn't that the aim of all other religions. i believe in X and your belief in Y is false and you are going to hell.