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Pr⊕phet
19-02-2007, 01:35 PM
for interest sake among the throng of religions and rest.

in your understanding:

a)
what is heaven?
what is in heaven?
where is heaven?
who is in heaven?
what you get in heaven?
what happens to you in heaven?

b)
does you belief system include a afterlife and what is it ?


c)
have you had an experiance of this after life / heaven ?

noxibox
19-02-2007, 01:39 PM
No evidence of any afterlife.

Heaven is a life well-lived.

BCO
19-02-2007, 01:41 PM
In the immortal words of Belinda Carlisle, "heaven is a place on earth".

noxibox
19-02-2007, 01:56 PM
I almost posted that, then thought better of it :)

BCO
19-02-2007, 01:58 PM
I have a shamelessly bad sense of humour.

ShaunSA
19-02-2007, 02:27 PM
heaven is.... oh never mind. The mod's would have to edit my post or slap an adults only rating on it :)

ghoti
19-02-2007, 02:35 PM
Its a filament!! :D

Tux
19-02-2007, 03:17 PM
Heaven is what you want it to be

ToxicBunny
19-02-2007, 03:17 PM
Heaven is an office with Mavs, no phones and no lusers....

Tux
19-02-2007, 03:20 PM
Heaven is an office with Mavs, no phones and no lusers....

Where's the fun in that if you cant torture lusers?

ToxicBunny
19-02-2007, 03:24 PM
Oh, they exist.. and they no u exist to.... but they can't get to you....
therein lies the exquisite torture..

Tux
19-02-2007, 03:26 PM
but can you get to them?

ToxicBunny
19-02-2007, 03:28 PM
If need be.. yes...

Tux
19-02-2007, 03:29 PM
Then that's heaven to me

Pr⊕phet
20-02-2007, 07:11 AM
...maybe its all a lie to 'win' you over to another believe system - one that has better afterlife perks ;)

Beancounter
20-02-2007, 10:48 PM
for interest sake among the throng of religions and rest.

in your understanding:

a)
what is heaven?

It isn't.


what is in heaven?
where is heaven?
who is in heaven?
what you get in heaven?
what happens to you in heaven?

See above


b)
does you belief system include a afterlife and what is it ??

No.


c)
have you had an experiance of this after life / heaven ?

See above.

Incidently, isn't it amazing how when people recount their near death experiences the afterlife is just like the one in the religious doctrines prevalent in their societies?

Makes you think.



Or not.



I'll get my coat.

noxibox
21-02-2007, 10:08 AM
Incidently, isn't it amazing how when people recount their near death experiences the afterlife is just like the one in the religious doctrines prevalent in their societies?
There is evidence to suggest we do experience hallucinations just as we die. Whether the common description of a near-death experience is a description of a standard experience of all humans or the hallucination is based on our cultural background is another matter.

Pr⊕phet
21-02-2007, 12:12 PM
There is evidence to suggest we do experience hallucinations just as we die. Whether the common description of a near-death experience is a description of a standard experience of all humans or the hallucination is based on our cultural background is another matter.

which brings me to my other questions:

how much of these are actually real and not just created by the mind as a hallucination

all metaphysics
magick
astral travel
any religious experiance
phasing
controlled journey (like controlled vision)
visions
dreams

and on other note
is there even a differance between controlled journey, dreams, astral travel, phasing


...mind over all...

Prometheus
21-02-2007, 02:37 PM
There is evidence to suggest we do experience hallucinations just as we die. Whether the common description of a near-death experience is a description of a standard experience of all humans or the hallucination is based on our cultural background is another matter.
There is also evidence that people can see their death in great detail.