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Pr⊕phet
11-04-2007, 08:08 AM
The Crusades were a series of military conflicts of a religious character waged by Christians from 1095-1291, usually sanctioned by the Pope in the name of Christendom,with the goal of recapturing Jerusalem and the sacred "Holy Land" from Muslim rule and originally launched in response to a call from the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine Empire for help against the expansion of the Muslim Seljuq dynasty into Anatolia.

The term is also used to describe contemporaneous and subsequent campaigns conducted through the 16th century in territories outside the Levant, usually against pagans, those considered by the Catholic Church to be heretics, and peoples under the ban of excommunication for a mixture of religious, economic, and political reasons. Rivalries among both Christian and Muslim powers led also to alliances between religious factions against their opponents, such as the Christian alliance with the Sultanate of Rum during the Fifth Crusade. The traditional numbering scheme for the Crusades includes the nine major expeditions to the Holy Land during the 11th to 13th centuries. Other unnumbered "crusades" continued into the 16th century, lasting until the political and religious climate of Europe was significantly changed during the Renaissance and Reformation.

The Children's Crusade was not a military campaign but probably a popular uprising in France and/or Germany, possibly with the intention of reaching the Holy Land in order to convert Muslims there peacefully to Christianity.

The Crusades had far-reaching political, economic, and social impacts, some of which have lasted into contemporary times. Because of internal conflicts among Christian kingdoms and political powers, some of the crusade expeditions (such as the Fourth Crusade) were diverted from their original aim and resulted in the sack of Christian cities, including the Byzantine capital, Constantinople. The Sixth Crusade was the first crusade to set sail without the official blessing of the Church, establishing the precedent that rulers other than the Pope could initiate a crusade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades#Legacy


...so whats your opinion on the crusades, know if any other religion, sects or groups that had similiar things going on ??

Boyrock
11-04-2007, 08:43 AM
I think the christians are the biggest murderers on this earth.

Natas
11-04-2007, 09:27 AM
I agree with Boyrock. Christians p1ss me off!! Especially missionaries, the worst kind of christian, who think they are doing people a favour by taking THEIR religion to another part of the world that was previously UNINFECTED by it, when instead they should be taking their religion and shoving it up their you know whats!!!

phenom
11-04-2007, 11:09 AM
how many religious crusades, witch burning and inquisitions did islam have ?My Answer:
MANY MANY, MANY MORE

Crusaders:

More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. http://www.crisismagazine.com/october2003/madden.htm
Millions more killed:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=831209&postcount=27
& http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/timeline.htm
1300 years of slave castrations:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=972671&postcount=53

Are you not familiar with 'Islam was spread by the swored'.
Why are you people so focused on Christianity when there is a much, much uglier monster.

Pr⊕phet
11-04-2007, 01:07 PM
hmmm doesn't all religions have the 'teach by fear' thing...

phenom
11-04-2007, 01:20 PM
hmmm doesn't all religions have the 'teach by fear' thing...Althouth i know Islam is the crulest callous cult of Ignorance, Callousness, Chauvinism, Masochism & Death , The problem I see in Christians today is although in a lesser form than Muslims, they too can be very ignorant, and I think the problem with Christianity in the past and a lesser form today is that people skim read the bible and ignore verses which say that Jewish laws are abolished, they then act upon these laws and the whole religion is dragged unnecessarily through the mud, people also misuse/misread verses in the bible especially the old testament to acquire their own perversions like killing gays(4ie.). Their for I also think the old-testament could be mean harm for the human race; as for the new testament their is little or no threats to humanism. But Islam is remains by far the worst of cults!

Islam, more than any other religion human beings have devised, has all the makings of a thoroughgoing cult of death.Sam Harris

noxibox
11-04-2007, 01:29 PM
If Jewish laws were really abolished then the Bible should be split. There's the part for historical interest and the part you have to follow.

phenom
11-04-2007, 01:32 PM
If Jewish laws were really abolished then the Bible should be split. There's the part for historical interest and the part you have to follow.Good idea

noxibox
11-04-2007, 01:32 PM
The current state of affairs in contemporary religious America is something which Harris feels should be a matter for profound national embarrassment. He notes that 44 per cent of Americans, according to polls, believe that Jesus will probably return within the next fifty years. This is roughly the same number who think that creationism should be taught in schools, to the complete exclusion of Darwinian evolution; or that God has literally promised the land of Israel to the modern-day Jews.

Sam Harris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Harris_(author))

Nod
11-04-2007, 01:53 PM
God is an Atheist, and if that is good enough for god, it's good enough for me.
I've been reading the Secret Teachings of All Ages (http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta), very insightful.

phenom
11-04-2007, 01:55 PM
duh, thats what faith does, but i think it has to do with the "Nebuchadrezzar's dream( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAG1sGjXQhw )" think, it looks very noteworthy but is it true, maby?
Personally i think jesus taught faith as a technology(as placebo) not as a requirement.
Islam is the world's fastest growing religion(not by conversions and not by percent but by birth rate), it has a birth rate way higher than other religions, It clearly poses the greatest threat to humanity, so I hope the Christians are right. Oh yes and then their is the way ignorant Christianity is practiced today also and which is one of the reasons I see problems with faith but i do think it is an interesting religion.

Pr⊕phet
11-04-2007, 08:13 PM
quite a long list of crusades or should one call it, conquering the lands for the roman empire under the flag of the christian religion ???

DragonLogos
12-04-2007, 02:37 AM
Well there's always the Knights Templar

FlyingPika
13-04-2007, 10:56 PM
"The Crusades were a series of military conflicts of a religious character waged by Christians from 1095-1291"

I beg to differ, a Christian follows Christs example, but the Crusaders were just doing their own thing under a banner of Christ.

I know some1 who calls himself a Christian but doesnt believe Jesus came in the flesh and walked on this earth and took the punishment of his sins.

God knows who his people are, and people pretending to be his followers dont fool him.

Pr⊕phet
15-04-2007, 08:55 AM
Christian follows Christs example, but the Crusaders were just doing their own thing under a banner of Christ.

exactly.

...theres no love in murder, killing and rape