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  • Obama has slight edge against Romney




    With 100 days to go before the US election, President Barack Obama appears to have a slight edge over Republican rival Mitt Romney, though he is still at the mercy of a stumbling US economy.

    Polls show the Democratic incumbent's lead is shrinking as voters lose faith in his ability to tackle crucial domestic issues, in particular the economy, as growth slows and the job market stubbornly refuses to pick up.

    According to a Wall Street Journal and NBC poll published this week, only 36 percent of American voters are confident Obama can improve the economy, while 43 percent prefer Romney, a multi-millionaire former venture capitalist.

    Obama and his team have been hammering away at Romney's argument that his business experience makes him the better choice to get Americans back to work, alleging that his firm often sacked US workers and sent jobs abroad.

    But the attacks appear to have gained little traction with a pessimistic electorate. Unemployment is stuck at 8.2 percent and is not expected to fall below 7.9 percent by the end of the year, the White House acknowledged Friday.

    Figures released by the US Commerce Department on Friday showed GDP growth in the second quarter slowing to 1.5 percent from 2.0 percent in the first, amid falling consumer demand.

    Economists warn that growth of less than two percent is not enough to make inroads into unemployment, and Romney's economic advisers claim that their policies could quickly double the rate.

    Sixty percent of Americans believe the country is on the wrong track, the poll found.

    An average of national polls compiled by RealClearPolitics.com, a non-partisan website that tracks political trends, shows Obama slightly ahead of Romney overall, with 46.4 percent of the vote to 45.1 percent.

    His lead has narrowed from 3.6 percent at the beginning of July, even though polling expert Nate Silver of The New York Times, gives Obama a 65 percent chance of being re-elected thanks to the lead he enjoys in certain key states.

    In his speeches, Obama exhorts his followers to mobilize for what he warns will be a tight election. In fact, the WSJ and NBC poll found that only eight percent of the electorate remains undecided at this point.

    The campaign is likely to gather in intensity in August, and several key events in the coming weeks could still shift the momentum.

    Romney must unveil his running mate, Republicans and Democrats will hold nominating conventions at the end of August and early September respectively and televised debates have been scheduled for October 3, 16 and 22.

    "What matters most is economic news over the next 100 days," said Thomas Mann, an expert on the US presidency at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.

    "Every democratic government around the world faces a daunting challenge getting re-elected during these difficult economic times," he told AFP.

    But Mann said he was "impressed by the fact that Obama has maintained a small lead over Romney and job approval ratings just a few points under 50 percent over the last months is spite of the economy."

    Still, Obama has recently suffered a drop in his personal popularity. Some 43 percent of voters responding to the WSJ and NBC poll said they had a negative opinion -- 32 percent of them "very negative" -- of their president.

    The decline comes amid an onslaught of aggressive Democratic campaign ads targeting Romney's Swiss bank accounts and what they portray as a record of lost jobs at companies controlled by Bain Capital, the investment company he led.

    The two camps have pummeled each other on issues as diverse as foreign policy and support for small business. Romney accuses Obama of espousing a view of the economy that is "foreign to the American experience."

    For its part, the White House has mounted a deft counter-program to Romney's current trip overseas, hailing the "special relationship" with Britain on Thursday just as Romney struggled with a gaffe over the Olympics in London.

    On Friday, Obama signed a law strengthening US cooperation with Israel in an Oval Office ceremony that happened to be held just ahead of Romney's visit to the Jewish state this weekend.

    On the campaign trail, Obama strategy has been to position himself as the defender of the middle class while lambasting his rival as an "outsourcing pioneer."

    He has campaigned heavily in states that could decide the outcome of the November 6 election, such as Ohio and Florida, to where he travels next week.
    Comments 101 Comments
    1. rpm's Avatar
      rpm -
      With 100 days to go before the US election, President Barack Obama appears to have a slight edge over Republican rival Mitt Romney, though he is still at the mercy of a stumbling US economy.

      Polls show the Democratic incumbent's lead is shrinking as voters lose faith in his ability to tackle crucial domestic issues, in particular the economy, as growth slows and the job market stubbornly refuses to pick up.
    1. Bryn26's Avatar
      Bryn26 -
      The fact that the only nominee in the US election who speaks well, creates a good impression of the country and takes stances on contentious issues that can be reconciled with morality isn't far ahead reflects poorly on the US.
    1. Greylor's Avatar
      Greylor -
      Given Romney's recent performance in the UK, a ham sandwich would have a slight edge against him.

    1. killadoob's Avatar
      killadoob -
      Obama is a sure thing.

      I wonder if some of the betting sites would offer odds . obama 1/10 romney 8/1
    1. marine1's Avatar
      marine1 -
      God help us all if obama comes in again
    1. killadoob's Avatar
      killadoob -
      Quote Originally Posted by marine1 View Post
      God help us all if obama comes in again
      God cannot help us, if he could he surely would have.

      There is no if, it's when
    1. copacetic's Avatar
      copacetic -
      Quote Originally Posted by marine1 View Post
      God help us all if obama comes in again
      Would you really prefer Romney?
    1. killadoob's Avatar
      killadoob -
      Quote Originally Posted by copacetic View Post
      Would you really prefer Romney?
      Marine thinks obama is the worst president but i bet marine loved bush . Did you think bush was good marine?

      Who was the best president of our time(since early 80's)? Clinton perhaps? apart from his love of stuffing young muffins with cigars was he decent?
    1. zippy's Avatar
      zippy -
      Quote Originally Posted by copacetic View Post
      Would you really prefer Romney?
      Best description of Romney by the British press so far. A muppet.

      I don't think it will make much of a difference if Obama or the muppet is in the white house, other than to play to the deluded left and right lunatic fringes that their man is in.

      I think Romney will be more entertaining. Imagine, a muppet(Romney), clown(Boris Johnson), toff(David Cameron). Something laugh about, which is about all the value politicians add to society.

      I look forward to President Romney' first visit to the UK. I'll bet the British press do as well they can ask if he thinks his Massachussets Health Care bill is more left wing than the NHS
    1. Zyzzyva's Avatar
      Zyzzyva -
      Quote Originally Posted by copacetic View Post
      Would you really prefer Romney?
      Romney has an astonishing business record, the kind of record which at a bare minimum gives a person a leg up on the question of how to get american business moving again. According to wikipedia "he ran Bain Capital for fourteen years, during which time the firm's average annual internal rate of return on realized investments was 113 percent".
    1. zippy's Avatar
      zippy -
      Quote Originally Posted by Bryn26 View Post
      The fact that the only nominee in the US election who speaks well, creates a good impression of the country and takes stances on contentious issues that can be reconciled with morality isn't far ahead reflects poorly on the US.
      Actually what reflects postively on the US is that it's the only country who has a president/prime minister/king/general/dear leader or whatever they call themselves who creates a good impression, takes stances on contentious issues that can be reconciled with morality. Notwithstanding that little matter of the drones in Pakistan, but he is only human, and the drones have to be somewhere
    1. zippy's Avatar
      zippy -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zyzzyva View Post
      Romney has an astonishing business record, the kind of record which at a bare minimum gives a person a leg up on the question of how to get american business moving again. According to wikipedia "he ran Bain Capital for fourteen years, during which time the firm's average annual internal rate of return on realized investments was 113 percent".
      Yeah, he is good at getting American business moving. Offshore. Lol. Obviously non-Americans are gonna love him, and Americans with shares in offshore companies. You have to be a bit retarded to vote for someone who is gonna move your job to China. But them most right-wing Americans are a bit inbred and thick.
    1. copacetic's Avatar
      copacetic -
      Mitt Romney seems genuinely stunned that President Obama would question the value of his proudest accomplishment, founding and running Bain Capital for 15 years (or maybe a little bit more). To Romney and others who work in finance, it’s self-evident that what private equity firms like Bain do is beneficial to the economy. Private equity firms buy underperforming businesses and restructure them. With new management and investment, some of these firms thrive while others fail. As a result, investment is allocated more efficiently. This is creative destruction in its pure form and if you question it, they say, you must not believe in capitalism.

      To Barack Obama and most liberals, it’s no less obvious that there’s something faulty about this model of financial capitalism as it has been practiced over the past 30 years. Leveraged buyouts, which are what private equity firms do, load companies with debt, extract value for middlemen, and displace workers. Heads-I-win, tails-you-lose practices in the financial sector, regulatory loopholes, and tax advantages produce runaway winners like Romney while middle-class workers lose ground. As the gap between economic victims and executioners grows, the resulting society becomes more unequal and unfair.

      Both positions in this argument—that Obama doesn’t believe in capitalism, that Romney doesn’t care about workers—are distortions. But after a week of skirmishing, Obama has the upper hand for reasons that go beyond the campaign-season truism that when one guy wields the hammer, the other guy looks like a nail. Here are five reasons why the Obama campaign wants this subject—what Romney did at Bain, when he left, what he had for lunch when he worked there—to stay front and center for as long as possible.
      http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._at_bain_.html

      I'm not a fan boy of Obama, nor do I detest Romney in any particular way - I'm not sure that Romney's values are going to be very good for the poor people in America though...
    1. killadoob's Avatar
      killadoob -
      Quote Originally Posted by zippy View Post
      Actually what reflects postively on the US is that it's the only country who has a president/prime minister/king/general/dear leader or whatever they call themselves who creates a good impression, takes stances on contentious issues that can be reconciled with morality. Notwithstanding that little matter of the drones in Pakistan, but he is only human, and the drones have to be somewhere
      What do you mean the drones have to be somewhere? The stupid thing is the drones are doing no damage and there is no one verifying who is dying. The only thing the drones are doing is creating hatred for americans.

      What happened to democracy, what happened to trial before death? O wait that only applies in america .
    1. marine1's Avatar
      marine1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by copacetic View Post
      Would you really prefer Romney?
      I would prefer anyone else
    1. Zyzzyva's Avatar
      Zyzzyva -
      Quote Originally Posted by zippy View Post
      Yeah, he is good at getting American business moving. Offshore. Lol. Obviously non-Americans are gonna love him, and Americans with shares in offshore companies. You have to be a bit retarded to vote for someone who is gonna move your job to China. But them most right-wing Americans are a bit inbred and thick.
      Yeah hippy business genius Steve Jobs done the same. I guess these people are thick or something, or maybe they are just making use of opportunities to improve the business numbers. Failure to do so is in many ways a failure in leadership, because the number are just that striking. The game would be played a little different were they tasked with improving employment numbers in the US.

      Romney is clearly lacking upstairs.

      One of the most exclusive clubs in academe is a Harvard University dual-degree program allowing graduate students to attend its law and business schools simultaneously, cramming five years of education into four. On average, about 12 people per year have completed the program — the overachievers of the overachievers — including a striking number of big names in finance, industry, law and government.

      The program is so small that it has drawn little attention outside rarefied circles, but that may change as its most famous graduate, Mitt Romney, campaigns for the White House, subjecting every phase of his life to scrutiny.
    1. copacetic's Avatar
      copacetic -
      Quote Originally Posted by marine1 View Post
      I would prefer anyone else
      Why?

      What is so terrible about Obama? Serious question.

      I honestly don't understand what makes him so awful you'd prefer anyone.

      That is irrational, surely?
    1. Zyzzyva's Avatar
      Zyzzyva -
      Quote Originally Posted by marine1 View Post
      I would prefer anyone else
      I'd also prefer someone else tbh, but this notion that Romney is an idiot and Obama is an intellectual giant is quite ridiculous.
    1. marine1's Avatar
      marine1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by copacetic View Post
      Why?

      What is so terrible about Obama? Serious question.

      I honestly don't understand what makes him so awful you'd prefer anyone.

      That is irrational, surely?
      I will just say one thing, his agenda against Israel and pro Arab makes me mad.
      That is probably the most annoying thing.

      I wont go into all the other things that he has done, probably the same or worse than Bush in terms of laws in the US.
    1. killadoob's Avatar
      killadoob -
      Quote Originally Posted by marine1 View Post
      I will just say one thing, his agenda against Israel and pro Arab makes me mad.
      That is probably the most annoying thing.

      I wont go into all the other things that he has done, probably the same or worse than Bush in terms of laws in the US.
      Pro arab WTF? Anti israel?

      You need a tinfoil hat, explain to me how he is pro arab