Gautrain passenger numbers should be investigated: DA

Originally Posted by JungleBoy

Gautrain is good but does not beat the use of a private car unless you stay and work very close to the stations.

Private sector companies need to come to the party as well. The likes of ABSA, Std Bank, Anglo etc already pick up their employees from the station using shuttle taxis.

I Asked my company.... Lets say the look of love were not given

Originally Posted by DJ...

That's better out of the box thinking. If government subsidised electric bicycles or even small electric car taxis, this could have been fantastic. The Geely could have filled this gap nicely. The problem is the government are schit scared to do anything that risks pissing off the minibus taxi businesses...

We talked about this a week ago. we had an electric car made in SA but the plug ( pardon ) was pulled on it.
Still 2 cars per person is a bit hectic.

Originally Posted by unskinnybob

IMHO it's reliability then cost. I used the Gautrain a couple of times to get to OR Tambo. Then it hit snags, ran late, whatever. Now I just can't be arsed.

Travelling to OR Tambo is actually cheaper by Gautrain if you factor in the exorbitant parking charges. Or close to. And waaaaaaay faster.

Gotta give them a chance to iron out operational issues. They're still in their infancy...

Originally Posted by Mila

We talked about this a week ago. we had an electric car made in SA but the plug ( pardon ) was pulled on it.
Still 2 cars per person is a bit hectic.

Yip - the Joule. I said Geely earlier...

1. It wouldn't hurt being a bit cheaper (but still ok)
2. It takes me longer to get to the station by car due to traffic than to get from point A to B.
3. More bus routes will definitely work (i.e. I would rather sit in a bus in traffic than still going through the frustration in my car and paying for the rest of the journey on the train)
4. Be a little less stupid than sending one after the other 4 coach train during peak hours. I have had to wait for the 4th train in afternoon peak sometimes and would have been home by the time I got on the train.

Taxi fare
PTA - JHB R26
Train - R7

Gautrain - > R46

Originally Posted by Cool E

Taxi fare
PTA - JHB R26
Train - R7

Gautrain - > R46

It isn't intended to compete with the minibus taxi service just yet. The point is to position itself for the middle class as an alternative to those who drive themselves to work every day. That is best possible financial route to take...

Originally Posted by Cool E

Taxi fare
PTA - JHB R26
Train - R7

Gautrain - > R46

Now do something similar with a view on safety ... I would much rather pay >R46 than risk my life in either a taxi or on those trains

Originally Posted by OGroteKoning

Now do something similar with a view on safety ... I would much rather pay >R46 than risk my life in either a taxi or on those trains

Nevermind that, I might be labelled a snob, but I don't want to sit uncomfortably in a taxi. It's worth the relatively insignificant amount extra, to me.

Originally Posted by Messugga

Nevermind that, I might be labelled a snob, but I don't want to sit uncomfortably in a taxi. It's worth the relatively insignificant amount extra, to me.

Pfffft. Snob

Originally Posted by Messugga

Nevermind that, I might be labelled a snob, but I don't want to sit uncomfortably in a taxi. It's worth the relatively insignificant amount extra, to me.

I can do taxi in town... for short distances. But taxi on a highway.. I rather not.

Originally Posted by Messugga

Nevermind that, I might be labelled a snob, but I don't want to sit uncomfortably in a taxi. It's worth the relatively insignificant amount extra, to me.

You are the target market. Nothing wrong with your point of view...

Too expensive for me, and not really located anywhere near me or the bus routes.

Originally Posted by Cool E

Taxi fare
PTA - JHB R26
Train - R7

Gautrain - > R46

How do you travel?
Mine Is R65 Centurion to Rhodesfield, and i still have to drive 40 km to and from the station daily
44 trips R1463

This is just not an option... as much as I want it to be

My biggest issue is the amount of stations and the feeder system. For my office the bus stop is right in front, but I need to get from PTA North to the PTA central station and that alone is mission and a half. If you don't leave PTA North before 6am you will be stuck in traffic.

But I presume it will take time for them to expand the network. Hopefully by the time they do it I'm not on retirement.

The trains start too late, and end too early.

I often cannot use the Gautrain because the times don't work, for example if you fly from Cape Town to Joburg after 18:00 then you cannot use the Gautrain, as it stops running at 20:30 !

Also : I have wanted to go to Day/Night cricket at Centurion, but you cannot do so because the trains stop running too early !

Originally Posted by DWPTA

My biggest issue is the amount of stations and the feeder system. For my office the bus stop is right in front, but I need to get from PTA North to the PTA central station and that alone is mission and a half. If you don't leave PTA North before 6am you will be stuck in traffic.

But I presume it will take time for them to expand the network. Hopefully by the time they do it I'm not on retirement.

+1 I would even be willing to take the business express train from one of the stations (gulp) in Pta North to central and the Gautrain from there, but they cater for NOTHING on the other side of the zoo.

Originally Posted by OGroteKoning

Now do something similar with a view on safety ... I would much rather pay >R46 than risk my life in either a taxi or on those trains

good for you

Originally Posted by rpm

The new Transport Minister Ben Martins should urgently investigate the reasons why so few people use the Gautrain, it was reported on Wednesday.

Democratic Alliance transport spokesman Ian Ollis MP, said the low usage meant taxpayers were having to pay nearly R300 million a year to the Gautrain's operators, Beeld reported.

Instead of paying 300m for nothing, why not use that to subsidize the price then....for me the main issue is that there are no 'regular user' discounts for parking and buses. So if you going to park your car at the station and take the bus on the other end, you are already looking at more than 500 bucks before including the train fare.

Originally Posted by Mila

Cost - It stupid expensive and to use it I need 2 cars which means two parking tickets.
Busses run to a very small area
Location

+1000
Gautrain need to expand their bus feeder networks so that I can get rid of my vehicle.
I can't afford to own a vehicle and use the Gautrain and I'm also not willing to walk 15km to the station or use a taxi (which also requires a long walk).

If the Gautrain was built to be used by the middle class then why did they take the main line towards Pretoria CBD instead of Pretoria North and East?

Originally Posted by DWPTA

My biggest issue is the amount of stations and the feeder system. For my office the bus stop is right in front, but I need to get from PTA North to the PTA central station and that alone is mission and a half. If you don't leave PTA North before 6am you will be stuck in traffic.

But I presume it will take time for them to expand the network. Hopefully by the time they do it I'm not on retirement.

Why not just go to the Hatfield station? It's quite a bit closer to your neck of the woods?

Originally Posted by Messugga

Why not just go to the Hatfield station? It's quite a bit closer to your neck of the woods?

Probably because using the Hatfield station adds another hop to the trip.
This costs more, both time and money wise.