How can you justify in religious terms what happened to my sister? Three men gang raping her and her suicide? More than just that, if there was ever a Xtian that required god's help, it was her, and she was a staunch Xtian. Why didnt he come to her help? I know she prayed because she told me before she took her own life. Clearly this "God" person didnt give a sh1it about her. She was 15 ffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OK, now I am upset.
It really does re-affirm my position that if god exists, he is an evil bastord! He really doesnt care.
Maybe I shouldnt be posting this because it really upsets me, however I dont think there is a single person on this planet that can give me a reasonable answer as to why this "God" person would put my sister through her ordeal, and then take her life!
We are not vessels of god as some might believe. If he does exist, we are his play toys!
Apologies if I offend anyone with this statement, but if god exists, he really needs to be punished as he is an evil twat! FK YOU GOD!!!!! Why did you take my beautiful sister away from us?
I might sound like I am just venting here, but for those believers, I would really like an answer!
I agree with TB on something - with incidents such as this happening, proof is no longer enough. If he did exist, I'd sooner go to hell, dying with my pride intact, rather than suck up to this sadistic psychopath in order to enter his kingdom.
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Thanks for the support guys. To tell you the truth I havent spoken to many people about this until now (on a public forum of all places) and it really is difficult to come to terms with, so thank you very much. It is always the smallest but most considerate gestures that mean the most. It only happened two weeks ago and it still feels surreal to an extent, but certainly not in a good way.
It is amazing what impact this had on me. I have since sold my equity in one of my companies and resigned from my day to day job. I cant believe I did these things but I did for some reason.
Myselfy9y: yeah THAT theory again ... irritates me no end cos its just so blatantly wrong but anyway, thats a different discussion
As for the good Doctor that you mentioned, if he's so reliable why is he not a world wide phenomenon and why are people not streaming in from all over the globe to be healed by him? Has anyone you personally know, been to him and been healed of a life threatening disease such as Aids or Leukemia(sp?)
DJStealth : Massive events like this, have a way of making us re-evaluate our lives from a completely different point of view. It saddens me immensely that a 15yr old girl has been taken from this planet, but somehow try and make something good come from it, if thats even possible. I've always found for me at least, that helping other people, even in a small way slowly helps the pain go away.
I see, that is your situation? It sounds as though you're talking about something which is profoundly more difficult and deeper than the scope of this thread. You've obviously suffered a terrible, baffling loss and a great wound. I'm not surprised that everything you believe in was shaken by those events.
But let me ask you, what good would it do you to see a healed amputee (for instance), or even to have proof of God in your situation? The situation hasn't changed, and neither has your pain been healed. It's not a solution at all - to me it would be like having a magician at a funeral - freakishly inapposite.
Human pain is mainly caused by human hands, but what is required by those who suffer in their situations are not miracles but comforting, healing. The picture of Christ that we have is of a person who primarily suffered, healed and forgave. His suffering is capable of meeting our need in our situations and of restoring us.
Go and carefully read, if you are inclined, Psalm 22 and Isaiah 53 - both present a picture of Christ, but what kind of person do they present? A 'man of sorrows', 'afflicted with grief', 'one from whom men hide their faces', and 'by whose stripes we were healed'.
As I have said already, having proof of God's existence would not help you at all, it is not what we require. I've experienced enough things personally that I have to believe, but in my personal life I don't know how much I actually care for God's presence, at least not as much as I should. The problem is endemic to humanity, it is in our nature.
You were watching until a stone was cut out without hands
DJstealth, bro I feel your pain.
Guys, remember that miracles are only temporary, we will all one day eventually die - guaranteed.
For me the greatest miracle which has eternal consequence is the assurance of salvation beyond the grave. The pains and suffering that we experience on this earth are also only temporary.
Your sister been a Christian is in a far better place now, but this doesn't take away the ordeal that she had to suffer. I don't have an answer for you there.
What I can say is that Jesus, been perfect in every way had the sin of the world placed on him and suffered death on a cross (the most barbaric torture of the time) that you and me can receive the eternal miracle of salvation.
The reason why these things happen, I have no answer
You don't have to be a world wide phenomenon to get something right. My mother went to a healing ceremony where he was. I know other people personally who went to him. He has an excellent track record.
There are some people who commit suidice and they succeed, others don't.
You have to ask, why don't the others succeed ? Well, it's because it wasn't their time yet. No matter how you look at it, it was your sisters time, even at such a young age. I mean, you get babies who are born, and then die in hospital a few days later.
I'm sorry Myselfy9y, that kind of answer regarding it being someones time doesn't cut it.... she was raped and had her entire existence destroyed just so 3 guys could get off once..... There is not a deity in existence that can justify that and get away with it in my opinion.
Happened to meI mean, you get babies who are born, and then die in hospital a few days later
Sorry.. that I don't accept... if he exists he has the power to change things...
Oh I can explain it.... and it doesn't need the existence of a god to explain. It revolves around 3 sexually charged men, who don't have the right moral values or social mores to stop them commiting a heinous crime and also not giving a stuff that they will be caught and thrown into jail. They are also mentally unstable.
And no, NONE of the things I have mentioned require religion to fix or solve.