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    The one most important thing to remember about Linux, is that if it is not doing what it is supposed to, you are probably doing something wrong. Linux, like God, is infallible

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiskop View Post
    Excellent.

    About the VM - I use Virtualbox and it's great, but if you go that route - don't use the one in the repos. Rather grab the .deb for the virtyualbox website. It uses some proprietary drivers (which is why it isn't in the repos) and provides afew extra features. Worth it IMHO.

    Some interesting virtualisation options in the upcoming 8.04.

    Thunderbird vs Outlook - That's a matter of opinion, I guess.

    I'd love to use Tbird, but I have to fetch my mail from an exchange server. I use Evolution, may be worth a look, if you're looking for something more Outlook-ish.
    I just want to get to a point where I can use virtualisation to solve gaming on Linux

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiskop View Post
    Excellent.

    About the VM - I use Virtualbox and it's great, but if you go that route - don't use the one in the repos. Rather grab the .deb for the virtyualbox website. It uses some proprietary drivers (which is why it isn't in the repos) and provides afew extra features. Worth it IMHO.

    Some interesting virtualisation options in the upcoming 8.04.

    Thunderbird vs Outlook - That's a matter of opinion, I guess.

    I'd love to use Tbird, but I have to fetch my mail from an exchange server. I use Evolution, may be worth a look, if you're looking for something more Outlook-ish.
    Yip downloaded VirtualBox deb last night, am busy toying with it.

    The thing I have against thunderbird is that i can only specify one smtp server, now my problem is, i have two, 3 of my mail accounts go through the same saix smtp server but the other one does not, so yes, that is still a struggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothan View Post
    Yip downloaded VirtualBox deb last night, am busy toying with it.

    The thing I have against thunderbird is that i can only specify one smtp server, now my problem is, i have two, 3 of my mail accounts go through the same saix smtp server but the other one does not, so yes, that is still a struggle.
    You can specify more than one - Just check the options, where it says SMTP servers, you can set more than one, and just pick each based on an account, otherwise there is the default smtp server that all your accounts will use if they don't have a different one selected.

    I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasyx View Post
    You can specify more than one - Just check the options, where it says SMTP servers, you can set more than one, and just pick each based on an account, otherwise there is the default smtp server that all your accounts will use if they don't have a different one selected.

    I think
    I tried setting up different ones, but with each new account, it defaults to the one smtp, but its not a tran smash, until I figure it out, i use thunderbird for all my one group of mails, and kmail for the other, on the positive side, it keeps it all nice and sorted.

    On the issue on email, is there a way that I can import my mails from my outlook pst file to thunderbird? I have a lot of emails in outlook that contains config settings and lisence keys and want to bring them all over to thunderbird. Have tried the import function, but that only imports communicator emails

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothan View Post
    I tried setting up different ones, but with each new account, it defaults to the one smtp, but its not a tran smash, until I figure it out, i use thunderbird for all my one group of mails, and kmail for the other, on the positive side, it keeps it all nice and sorted.
    In your Account Settings, add both SMTP servers under "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" then, under each account, you can select which SMTP server it should use.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gothan View Post
    But one thing, I hate thunderbird, I am sorry, but outlook 2007 kicks thunderbird' @ss
    You can't really compare them directly. Thunderbird is a mail app, Outlook is a groupware app. As far as reading and organising mail goes, especially if you subscribe to mailing lists, Outlook sucks balls compared to just about everything else. Can't do simple threading. Disclaimer: I haven't bothered with 2007, since I don't use Windows anywhere, but 2008 (Mac) doesn't do it. It can do "conversations" but it's just not the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koffiejunkie View Post
    In your Account Settings, add both SMTP servers under "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" then, under each account, you can select which SMTP server it should use.



    You can't really compare them directly. Thunderbird is a mail app, Outlook is a groupware app. As far as reading and organising mail goes, especially if you subscribe to mailing lists, Outlook sucks balls compared to just about everything else. Can't do simple threading. Disclaimer: I haven't bothered with 2007, since I don't use Windows anywhere, but 2008 (Mac) doesn't do it. It can do "conversations" but it's just not the same.

    Thanks will check it out

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    yeah i currently have multiple accounts setup to use smtp servers in tbird.
    Do NOT construe anything I type as advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasyx View Post
    I just want to get to a point where I can use virtualisation to solve gaming on Linux
    I use Cedega on which to run my games. It costs something like $5 per month, and works like a dream WoW, Command and Conquer, CounterStrike, etc.... It is also available on torrents if you prefer that route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothan View Post
    On the issue on email, is there a way that I can import my mails from my outlook pst file to thunderbird? I have a lot of emails in outlook that contains config settings and lisence keys and want to bring them all over to thunderbird. Have tried the import function, but that only imports communicator emails
    That's tad tricky, but here is the way:

    1) Import your Outlook .pst folder into OutlookExpress on Windows.
    2) On Windows install Thunderbird.
    3) Thunderbird for Windows has got an import Mail from OutlookExpress wizard. Do it.
    4) Get the imported Thunderbird folders from Windows to your Linux counterpart.

    You're done!

    Tell me if it worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaarik View Post
    That's tad tricky, but here is the way:

    1) Import your Outlook .pst folder into OutlookExpress on Windows.
    2) On Windows install Thunderbird.
    3) Thunderbird for Windows has got an import Mail from OutlookExpress wizard. Do it.
    4) Get the imported Thunderbird folders from Windows to your Linux counterpart.

    You're done!

    Tell me if it worked.
    There is actually a plugin for thunderbird that lets you imprt outlook pst files, and it works like a charm, so i am completely on thunderbird now, just search for the thunderbird plugin called pst-import1.xpi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothan View Post
    There is actually a plugin for thunderbird that lets you imprt outlook pst files, and it works like a charm, so i am completely on thunderbird now, just search for the thunderbird plugin called pst-import1.xpi
    Gothan, you are a star! Thanks for that. Much more convenient indeed.
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    after gothan's post, i have finally dumped outlook in favour of thunderbird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaarik View Post
    after gothan's post, i have finally dumped outlook in favour of thunderbird.

    Good for you, i am you one ahead, I have dumped outlook for thunderbird, then dumped thunderbird for evolution. Now I am happy as pie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothan View Post
    Good for you, i am you one ahead, I have dumped outlook for thunderbird, then dumped thunderbird for evolution. Now I am happy as pie
    i would have done so, too, but i need portability on USB flash drive for lots of other windows computers, and i never came across portable Windows Evolution; whereas portableapps.com features thunderbird. that is life.
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