Waht do you expect?

[pat22]

What do you expect?

I agree with all comments here, but what do you honestly expect?
This is a country where you cannot even book a driving test without major hassle.

Why stop at ADSL? Basic Telkom charges, cellphone packages, bank charges, insurance costs, dstv costs, car prices, medical aid, food prices…everywhere you look it’s the great SA rip off.

And then there are the labour laws. Put it all together and its no wonder foreign firms are queuing up to invest.

South Africa is not the US or Europe. It’s 3rd world and with each passing hour falls further behind.

[kidstyx]

On the otherside...

Perhaps you should realize that SA consists both of 1st world sectors as well as 3rd world sectors...

South Africa is still a developing country, which means that there are still endless business opportunities available to any of us.

Think of products and services of the 1st world countries in Europe, Asia and America. If they are not yet available in SA, import.. or even produce...

Earn fortunes in this country full of golden opportunities, and pay for the rip-offs... You will most probably have something left over :P

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[kaspaas]

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<br />On the otherside...

Perhaps you should realize that SA consists both of 1st world sectors as well as 3rd world sectors...

South Africa is still a developing country, which means that there are still endless business opportunities available to any of us.

Think of products and services of the 1st world countries in Europe, Asia and America. If they are not yet available in SA, import.. or even produce...

Earn fortunes in this country full of golden opportunities, and pay for the rip-offs... You will most probably have something left over :P
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Opportunities in SA is very limited due to the small markets compared to the US and Europe.

For a product slightly above the basic needs of life, you might have a market potential of around 4 -million people - spread over a vast area. In the US you have larger market in New York alone - a minor piece of land compared to SA.

Add all the hurdles being placed in ones way by government, and it becomes very difficult to start a new enterprise in SA.

I will not recommend anybody to invest money here - eastern Europe is much lower risk (no threats by people of land grabs, less red tape and closer to high volume markets to name a few advantages)

Telkom is making it even worse. Pricing and lack of quality service reduces the market even more. Many products depend on cost effective 24/7 connectivity - Telkom murders the roll out of such products - and places SA on the downhill path of the world IT-scene.




South Africa needs World Class Broadband at World Competitive Prices.

[mbs]

Ah come on, folks, let's be reasonable - every country has its own foibles and peculiarities, its honest brokers and corrupt officials, its upsides and downsides, its plusses and minuses, and so on *sigh*. On a final note, let's move on from that and focus on trying to fix that which we know is wrong locally - that's one of the objectives of this forum...

[pat22]

Forget about ADSL for a second though, if Telkom just offered unmetered 56k dial up for R200 p/m it would revolutionise SA small business and home internet use.

And to encourage start ups why don’t the banks offer free banking for the first year? I’ve seen it in Europe.

The list is long of how just a small alteration in practice by SA big business can make all the difference to helping SA grow.

Having read many posts on this site I get the impression we may as well all piss into the wind.

[kaspaas]

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<br />Forget about ADSL for a second though, if Telkom just offered unmetered 56k dial up for R200 p/m it would revolutionise SA small business and home internet use.
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This was line of thinking was suggested in older post as well. It is a seond rate solution, but would increase Internet usage.

Unfortunately it is doubtful if Telkom would even consider this no matter how beneficial it would be for the country.

The reality is, the more people use the bandwidth, the more bandwidth ISP's and Information providers have to purchase from Telkom.



South Africa needs World Class Broadband at World Competitive Prices.