I went hunting this weekend...

[Sneeky]

I'm with DJStealth on this one..
Hunting is for those with inferiority complexes.
And this doesn't contradict me eating meat.

There's a difference between sustaining yourself, and shooting a defenseless animal and calling it a sport.

Disagree completely with you killove, if anything it is morally correct!

If more people killed and slaughtered what they eat there would be a lot less excess in this world when it comes to meat consumption.
A hunter earns the right to eat meat.

Buying KFC, Steers, packaged meat from supermarkets has desensitized people to where meat really comes from.
A lot would be sick to their stomachs if they actually went to have a look.

Those that do not have the balls or the stomach for hunting their own meat, should not consume meat at all.

[DJ...]

Do you eat meat DJStealth??

Yes, what is your point? The animals are killed in a humane fashion and for a purpose that I believe to be fine - sustainability. I disagree with certain breeding practices as well. I also dont like their general treatment which I fight against.

I never claimed that I wouldnt stand up against dodgy practices in the meat industry. My mind boggles though as to what pleasure one can derive from killing another animal for what can only be considered, personal entertainment.

[Nocturnity]

...been 8 years since I last took some time to hunt and I must say it was damn fun. Personally shot a Kudu and Impala while as a group we shot 3 Kudu's, 3 Blue Wildebees and 3 Impala. Now I just can't wait to go and fetch my biltong

So, you coming round for a braai in a few weeks? Just be sude to bring along a few kilos of biltong.

I'm with DJStealth on this one..
Hunting is for those with inferiority complexes.
And this doesn't contradict me eating meat.

There's a difference between sustaining yourself, and shooting a defenseless animal and calling it a sport.

*cough* bullsh#t *cough*

There's a difference between sustaining yourself and impaling a defenseless animal with a nailgun.

Circular argument.
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[Getafix]

I'm with DJStealth on this one..
Hunting is for those with inferiority complexes.
And this doesn't contradict me eating meat.

There's a difference between sustaining yourself, and shooting a defenseless animal and calling it a sport.

To each his own.

Talking about inferiority complexes. Who cares about your opinion? Why not just shutup and most of us will have much more respect for you.

Your superior confidence shows by just wanting to have a pee in the pot.

Go and sustain yourself from the supermarket. Then come along and you slaughter the selfdefending cattle.

Grow up or at least say something intelligent.

[DJ...]

Disagree completely with you killove, if anything it is morally correct!

If more people killed and slaughtered what they eat there would be a lot less excess in this world when it comes to meat consumption.
A hunter earns the right to eat meat.

Buying KFC, Steers, packaged meat from supermarkets has desensitized people to where meat really comes from.
A lot would be sick to their stomachs if they actually went to have a look.

Those that do not have the balls or the stomach for hunting their own meat, should not consume meat at all.

Well here is the problem in a nutshell. Our political systems mean that this will never become a reality - we cannot all be subsistence farmers. And the animals are not bred for food, they are bred for the entertainment of those who have some strange urge to kill an animal. And they are not shot for subsistence farming purposes, they are killed for entertainment again.

If hunting existed for culling, or for the purposes of survival then I have no issue with it. But breeding animals to shoot so a few people can chop off its head and stick on their poorly decorated homes is morally wrong IMO.

[Killove]

Disagree completely with you killove, if anything it is morally correct!

If more people killed and slaughtered what they eat there would be a lot less excess in this world when it comes to meat consumption.
A hunter earns the right to eat meat.

Buying KFC, Steers, packaged meat from supermarkets has desensitized people to where meat really comes from.
A lot would be sick to their stomachs if they actually went to have a look.

Those that do not have the balls or the stomach for hunting their own meat, should not consume meat at all.

I never knew there was a biltong shortage. As a matter of fact, here are some links, so that next time, instead of killing an animal, you can just buy some online :

www.bonlati.co.za/biltong/index.htm
www.africanhut.com

The OP states with a smiley at the end of his post, that he cannot wait to get his biltong.
That was not his reason to hunt and kill the animal, because there is still quite a lot left on the market last I checked.

He killed the animal for a 'sport'

But to each his own.

[Hoof-Hearted]

Get a clue. Most of the wildlife you are able to see today anywhere is paid for with hunting money. Ethical hunting pays for conservation.

You think those fancy leather shoes you are wearing were made from cows that died peacefully in their sleep?

As I said, get a clue.

G26

ETA: Normal kudu around R3000-4000. Trophy can be up to around R8K.

Add to that, the fact that in most areas, "deer" have no natural enemies left in the environment, which makes culling essential. A mate of mine's family have farms around Jansenville ... they host an annual "free" kudu hunt every August just to keep the populations in check

Niks verkeert met n bietjie jag

[Sneeky]

Yes, what is your point? The animals are killed in a humane fashion and for a purpose that I believe to be fine - sustainability. I disagree with certain breeding practices as well. I also dont like their general treatment which I fight against.

I never claimed that I wouldnt stand up against dodgy practices in the meat industry. My mind boggles though as to what pleasure one can derive from killing another animal for what can only be considered, personal entertainment.

I hope your mother is proud of you buying that meat from the supermarket. [sarcoff]

So killing animals so called 'humanely' (which is another words for mechanized mass slaughter) in their millions is ok, just not shooting a few dead with a rifle in the bush?

If you want to fight against the treatment of animals, don't eat meat.
I find it is very rich to comment negatively on hunting, which is as old as time itself, with a hearty beef fillet on your plate.

[Killove]

To each his own.

Talking about inferiority complexes. Who cares about your opinion? Why not just shutup and most of us will have much more respect for you.

Thank you for speaking on behalf of all members of myadsl.

Your superior confidence shows by just wanting to have a pee in the pot.

What?

Go and sustain yourself from the supermarket. Then come along and you slaughter the selfdefending cattle.

Again, what?

Grow up or at least say something intelligent.

Can't retort, I have no idea what you're trying to say.
Perhaps instead of attending bush school where you murdered animals all day, you should have stayed in regular school and attended English classes.

[Getafix]

Add to that, the fact that in most areas, "deer" have no natural enemies left in the environment, which makes culling essential. A mate of mine's family have farms around Jansenville ... they host an annual "free" kudu hunt every August just to keep the populations in check

Niks verkeert met n bietjie jag

Geseend.

Die klomp "bambi huggers" met hulle groot bekke moet net een naweek saamkom.

Ongelukkig mag hulle nie hulle game controllers saam vat nie. En self vuur maak? Nie hulle nie.

Shame. Daar is seker 'n fabriek wat hulle KFC maak.

hulle moet maar gaan popcorn eet by Metro Saterdag.

[Sneeky]

Well here is the problem in a nutshell. Our political systems mean that this will never become a reality - we cannot all be subsistence farmers. And the animals are not bred for food, they are bred for the entertainment of those who have some strange urge to kill an animal. And they are not shot for subsistence farming purposes, they are killed for entertainment again.

If hunting existed for culling, or for the purposes of survival then I have no issue with it. But breeding animals to shoot so a few people can chop off its head and stick on their poorly decorated homes is morally wrong IMO.

Thats a bigbrush you use.
Many hunting operations directly support the conservation operations. I am under no illusions that their are unscrupulous people out there but if it were not for hunting, conservations efforts would be seriously hindered as it brings in needed revenue.

Sure not everyone can be farmers, yet you rubbish those that farm with buck, yet not beef? A beef farmer is responsible for far more dead beast than a buck farmer?
The animals are bread for dual purpose, hunting and food, not just food as in normal livestock farming.

I actually find this point of view sickening really, as it shows just how desensitized you are to what you eat. Go slaughter the next steak you eat.

[Getafix]

Can't retort, I have no idea what you're trying to say.
Perhaps instead of attending bush school where you murdered animals all day, you should have stayed in regular school and attended English classes.

What?

It is written in the queens english.

What dont you understand? You are showing your own intellect.

I dont have time to explain. i would have love to but I have to work next Monday.

[Sneeky]

I never knew there was a biltong shortage. As a matter of fact, here are some links, so that next time, instead of killing an animal, you can just buy some online :

www.bonlati.co.za/biltong/index.htm
www.africanhut.com

The OP states with a smiley at the end of his post, that he cannot wait to get his biltong.
That was not his reason to hunt and kill the animal, because there is still quite a lot left on the market last I checked.

He killed the animal for a 'sport'

But to each his own.

There isnt a biltong shortage because their are hunters.
Biltong is just like any other meat product you find in your supermarket freezers (rows and rows of freezers).
The only difference being is that you can stick it in a backpack and it will keep a lot longer on the trail.

You are happy to eat something just as long as you don't have to get bloodon your hands.
Somehow you rationalize that you are less complicit because someone else kills the cow, not you.
weird man, and very wrong.

[Killove]

I'm at a loss for words Getafix.
How do the sentences, "Your superior confidence shows by just wanting to have a pee in the pot." And, "Go and sustain yourself from the supermarket. Then come along and you slaughter the selfdefending cattle" make any sense?

I'll try understand, the second because the first im clueless about.
Are you saying I must go buy food in the supermarket, and then, slaughter cattle that defends itself?

Really, what are you trying to say?

[Arzy]

My personal opinion remains as follows:

I went out on a hunting trip for a weekend and had a great time, call it sport if you will.

I killed humanely as all my shots were clean and the animals didn't suffer, compared to cattle slaughter where metal spike is shot into the skull or sheep slaughter where they are electrocuted and then have their throats slit, I think this way is better.

I killed to sustain myself, yes I can go to spar and buy beef, but this way I provide very nice meat for myself and family at a way more affordable rate and no I don't have any trophies, I went out to get meat.

The buck we shot have no natural predators left and a purely bread to be shot, be it for local meat hunters or international trophy hunters. Very much the same as cattle, bread to be killed.. Where it differs from cattle however is that they are skittish and you actually have to make an effort to kill, we spent two days in the bush where most of the time we walked and stalked what we wanted to kill. The farmer does not allow for shooting from the bakkie or shooting at night.

However anyone may feel about the topic, I'm happy, I went out and had a great time and I get fed by doing this.