The Bible summarised!

[cyghost]

I have written more about stoning to release a book on stoning, but you still persist with your stoning argument. Half of my posts have been on stoning. The only conclusion I could come up with is that you don't listen to your parent and/or you are a homosexual. If that's the case, please let me comfort you and tell you that God loves you regardless. Some of us used to do very horrible things, but God managed to forgive us our sins.

The question you should be asking yourself is: Is it just for God to say people should be stoned?

No.

It.is.not.just.for.God.to.say.people.should.be.sto ned

[rza]

last time I read the big book, Adam and Eve weren't the same person.

Let's settle on Eve for now.

[porn$tar]

If you are referring to the fact that "woman" sinned and not "man", you are severely mistaken. Eve was tempted by the snake (the "devil") to eat the forbidden fruit. She committed the first sin against the only "law" they had then - they disobeyed God's only commandment (to not eat the forbidden fruit). Even though she took it to Adam, he was still disobedient and also ate the fruit. He could have rejected it, but he participated in the disobedience.

No, you specifically mentioned Adam, not "man". But like you said, it doesn't matter.

[rza]

No.

It.is.not.just.for.God.to.say.people.should.be.sto ned

Is it just for rapists, molesters, murderers to be killed through Gas Chambers?

[FarligOpptreden]

No, you specifically mentioned Adam, not "man". But like you said, it doesn't matter.

I think you're mistaking me for someone else dude...

[porn$tar]

I think you're mistaking me for someone else dude...

Sorry, it was rza, but you replied to my statement, so i replied to yours.

[FarligOpptreden]

np!

[GougedEye]

Is it moral (at any time or place) to stone homosexual people?
Is it moral (at any time or place) to stone children who do not listen to their parents?
Is it moral (at any time or place) for a rape victim to be stoned to death if she was raped in a city and she didn't cry for help?.

For it is written ...

They'll stone you when you're trying to be so good
They'll stone you just like they said they would
They'll stone you when you're trying to go home
They'll stone you when you're there all alone
But I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned





Sorry, couldn't resist

[The Cosmos]

Verses 16 and 17 gives reasons why God sent Jesus into the world, but more importantly it outlines God’s love for the world. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him”. Even though God loved the world so much, people still conclude that God’s purpose is to punish people and some still ask why He allows people to be murdered.

This is analogous to me loving my neighbor so much but finding he has committed a "sin" against me. So I kill my dog that I may forgive him.

It is ****ing ludicrous.

Again, you have no comprehension whatsoever. There is a reason why Christ had to DIE.
God married Israel (his people) through contract, and because Israel sinned, He wanted no more part of them. So, He divorced them. However, the law states that you can only marry again, only if the other half has died. So, in order for Israel to redeemed again by God, Christ had to die, and also in turn the people would be redeemed.

[cyghost]

Is it just for rapists, molesters, murderers to be killed through Gas Chambers?

I don't know. I sometimes feel that they should and I sometimes feel that we should somehow be above this. I certainly think God should be above this.

This is where cerebus and I went wrong.

You are *still* not answering my question, however.

It is a loaded question. You lose either way. I can only say in my own defence, I didn't load it. You all have done it to yourselves.

let is see how farlig fares:

Well, no. It is not moral to do so. The OT "laws" don't count anymore either, so what's your point?

You have said that OT laws do count. Jesus said so as well.

For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)

and

"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

and

All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

So the bible and the big J disagrees with your assertion that The OT "laws" don't count anymore either.

But my point is and it is a simple one:

You agree that there are immoral laws in the bible. God gave us immoral laws and these stood for 4000 years before *any* amendments were made and yet the person you claim made the amendments also said as I quoted above.

I shall now watch you attempt to reinterpret the passages quoted (but should warn you about 2 Peter 20-21 NAB) and furthermore attempt to explain how it was moral for "them" then but not for "us" today.


@GouegedEye

I forgive you man! (And I didn't even have to kill my dog!)

[GougedEye]

@GouegedEye

I forgive you man! (And I didn't even have to kill my dog!)

Praise be to Cyghost. It is indeed a miracle. How can there be any doubt? We are not worthy. Oooooh you are so impressive. please allow us to grovel some more oh perfect one.

[cyghost]

well now, perfect one *is* pushing it a bit. The rest is fine as it is.

[Pr⊕phet]

whats wr0ng with getting stoned ?

[agerbon]

I have said it before in a different thread.

The New testament is the biggest slap the Old testament ever had.

[Pr⊕phet]

I have said it before in a different thread.

The New testament is the biggest slap the Old testament ever had.

see
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=75077