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    http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...4702779C104825

    The police have warned that anyone in possession of pictures or video of a young Phoenix, Durban, girl having sex with four fellow pupils could be charged.

    This after a Phoenix businessman was arrested this week for being in possession of child pornography.

    Police Superintendent Jay Naicker said on Tuesday that Enbanathan Govender(cor), 31, had been arrested on Tuesday after officers received a tip that he was in possession of child pornography.

    "The images were found on his cellphone. The pictures were of pupils from a local school engaged in sexual acts," he said.

    The images are of a 16-year-old Phoenix girl who was filmed engaging in sexual acts with four fellow pupils on February 26. The girl had gone to a party where she and others had allegedly consumed alcohol and taken drugs, and engaged in sexual activities.
    Consensual sex for 16 year olds is legal or not ? How does this count as child porn ?

    Child porn is little kiddies and old pigs not this.
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    Well yea if your a consenting person at 16 to have sex i am not sure how it can be kiddie porn.

    I thought kiddie porn was like 14 and younger maybe even 12 and under because if you look at some 14 year old girls they do not like kiddies to me.

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    Do they even have any evidence to prove this guy knew they were 16?

    The whole child pornography thing has gone completely overboard. What is a sensible goal has spwned laws and behaviour by the police that is beyond stupid.

    For really stupid look at cases in the US where the teenagers who actually took part were arrested for production and possession of child pornography.

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    I think the world standard for the depiction of pornography is age 18.... it has nothing to do with the age of consensual sex.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography

    legal definitions of child pornography generally refer to a wider range of material, including any pornography involving a minor, according to jurisdiction
    a minor in South African law is a person under 18.

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    That's a possible explanation though it's rather illogical if correct.

    You can have sex but you can't take a photo ?

    You can even be married at 16 - but can't take photos of your honeymoon night ( I'm sure many do this.... )

    Teenage shena****ns being classed equally with the other far more disturbing stuff makes me uneasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveza View Post
    That's a possible explanation though it's rather illogical if correct.

    You can have sex but you can't take a photo ?
    Correct. In fact the girl and the boy in the video are guilty of PRODUCING
    child pr0n.
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    What would be the logic behind this conundrum ?
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    Its easy, if any of the parties in a pornographic video you are watching are younger than 18. It's child porn. It's that simple...

    Same reason why people under the age of 18 might think they can drink and or drive, it doesn't make it legal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garyvdh View Post
    I think the world standard for the depiction of pornography is age 18.... it has nothing to do with the age of consensual sex.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography



    a minor in South African law is a person under 18.
    Wow how stupid is that, you can screw 16 year old girls but you cannot have their naked pictures? Wow thats a LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killadoob View Post
    Wow how stupid is that, you can screw 16 year old girls but you cannot have their naked pictures? Wow thats a LOL.
    AFAIK you have to be under 18 to have sex with some between the ages of 16-18. If you take a photo and keep it to yourself, who's going to know? If you distribute it though, its child pornography.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudzy View Post
    Its easy, if any of the parties in a pornographic video you are watching are younger than 18. It's child porn. It's that simple...

    Same reason why people under the age of 18 might think they can drink and or drive, it doesn't make it legal.
    It may be that simple but it makes no sense.

    How can a photo of a legal act be illegal ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daveza View Post
    How can a photo of a legal act be illegal ?
    Lol, you've actually got a bloody good point there...

    Legal symantics ftl

    A 67 year old can screw a 16 year old *cough JZ*, but a guy can't have a picture of his 17 year old girlfriend naked? :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveza View Post
    It may be that simple but it makes no sense.

    How can a photo of a legal act be illegal ?
    It's not. Its the distribution of that photo which makes it illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudzy View Post
    It's not. Its the distribution of that photo which makes it illegal.
    No, even taking the photo at all is illegal.

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    there is nothing wrong with a theoretical original boyfriend having the photo... what is illegal is the distribution and sale of the photo.

    This refers to a story where a 16 year old girl had sex with multiple guys at a party and somebody recorded it on their cellphone. The video was then being distributed at the school and in that community and subsequently sold on DVD as well.

    If it was just the original boyfriend who had the photo with the girl's permission I doubt the authorities would have got involved. But they did get involved when the video and photos started being distributed without her consent and to her family's embarrassment. She still lives at home and as a minor is technically still under her parent's authority.

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