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    Hi Guys

    I recently placed a bet on South African sports betting website, which is "Licenced by the Gauteng Gambling Board".

    After the game was over, and I'd won the bet, they say they made an 'error' and in terms of
    'terms and conditions' that I agreed to, they can change the odds if they made an error.

    They lowered the odds significantly, removing nearly all my profit.

    How can they change the odds after the game is over to whatever they want?
    Surely this isn't legal in terms of the law?

    Like if you win at roulette, the casino say, sorry, we actually only want to pay 10-1 on a number.

    I am not willing to accept this.

    Any advice on this issue would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.

    Joe

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    Online gambling in SA is illegal. Isn't it? No wonder they pull this sh*t. Why don't you use ladbrokes or sportingbet.com or williamhill, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carbon_Fibre View Post
    Online gambling in SA is illegal. Isn't it? No wonder they pull this sh*t. Why don't you use ladbrokes or sportingbet.com or williamhill, etc
    No Carbon, online bookmakers are legal in this country as long as they are registered with the respective provincial board.

    @TalinJoe, you have rights as a gambler, from what your saying it does sound like the bookie is pulling a fast one, no matter the T&C, if you have a bet slip ( electronic or paper ) with the price, amount and expected payout, you should be entitled to that if you win, except in the case of things like dead heats etc, then other factors apply. I suggest you report it to the relevant provincial board and request that they investigate it. They should be happy to assist you.
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    Nevermind EVERY other sports betting site.. Betfair is the ONLY one out there.. much better odds, set by other punters. Nine out of ten times you get in game. Huge, liquid markets. Get yourself an account at Betfair. Use my refer and earn code. there are some conditions, but I think if you met them, both parties get free money...

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    Thanks Kosmik.

    Just received an email from the betting site:
    Good day.

    Unfortunately, due to an error in our download system, the Over 2.5 Market in the Sweden v San Marino game came through to our site at 9/10 instead of 1/6.
    We have rectified the transaction and price accordingly, and apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused.

    Please click on the link provided to view our Term’s & Condition’s relating to the issue.
    Once again, our sincere apologies.
    Here's an extract from the terms and conditions:
    Palpable errors pre-event - if an error is noticed prior to the start of an event/match, all bets will be void irrespective of the outcome. We will endeavour to contact the customer to allow the choice of placing another bet at the correct price/spread/handicap/totals at the time the bet was placed, or the current price/spread/handicap/totals if bigger. If an error is noticed after the start of an event/match, all winning bets will be settled at the correct odds/spreads/handicap/totals at the time the bet was placed.

    Palpable errors in-play - when it is clear which participant is the wrong price, bets on this participant will be settled at the intended World Sports Betting price at the time the bet was placed. If it is unclear which participant was the wrong price (due to large fluctuations around the time a bet was placed), then we reserve the right to void all bets placed at the time of an over-broke book. For incorrect spreads, handicaps or totals, bets will be void irrespective of the outcome.

    If an incorrect participant is quoted for any match, all bets placed on that match will be void, win or lose.
    If they aren't willing to honour the bet, I will speak to the Gauteng Gambling Board.
    (Just called them, everyone seems to be out of the office)

    Another point of attack is the wording in the terms and conditions.
    In the one place it says "correct odds" and the other "intended world sports betting odds" - surely this must mean there is a distinction between the two?
    ie correct is the matched odds and "intended..." is what they would have done?

    Who would bet with a bookie than doesnt honour their bets or changes the odds at will?

    From a legal perspective, is it possible they were negligent or misrepresented in order to induce me to contract?

    Do you think my best bet is to take it up with the gaming board?

    Thanks

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalinJoe View Post
    Thanks Kosmik.

    Just received an email from the betting site:


    Here's an extract from the terms and conditions:


    If they aren't willing to honour the bet, I will speak to the Gauteng Gambling Board.
    (Just called them, everyone seems to be out of the office)

    Another point of attack is the wording in the terms and conditions.
    In the one place it says "correct odds" and the other "intended world sports betting odds" - surely this must mean there is a distinction between the two?
    ie correct is the matched odds and "intended..." is what they would have done?

    Who would bet with a bookie than doesnt honour their bets or changes the odds at will?

    From a legal perspective, is it possible they were negligent or misrepresented in order to induce me to contract?

    Do you think my best bet is to take it up with the gaming board?

    Thanks

    Joe
    There could easily have been an issue with their desiminated price on their technical side, but the point is you got the bet ( and I hope some form of electronic confirmation ) before the event in question was settled? This is essence means they agreed to it at that price. The previous gambling institutions I used to work for would have honoured the bet out of principle if nothing else. I don't think it was intentional on their side but they are trying to limit the damages caused by the incorrect price.

    It depends on how much you staked and the difference in profit. If you feel its worth the fight, tell the board. Personally I'd question it anyway as in principle I can't stand that type of shena****ns.

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    I've got proof that the bet was matched at 9/10.
    (The email they sent had the old odds and the new ones)

    If you look at a market that is 9/10 and 9/10, how can they call that a palpable error.
    There is nothing obviously wrong with that?

    I've called them a few times today, they said they will speak to management and get
    back to me this afternoon. (whatever that means)

    @Kosmik - I agree with you that this is an issue of principle.
    The money issue aside, they are trying to blatantly exploit punters.

    I'll have to wait and see if they get back to me, and then see if I'll need to take
    it further.

    Cheers

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