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MODS: Can we have a poll please - Do you like the new format?

New Super 15 Format For 2011

SANZAR has unveiled competition format details as well as the 2011 draw for the new Super 15 tournament.

At a televised launch event in Sydney, SANZAR CEO, Greg Peters, unveiled the new name, logo and colours that will represent the new Super Rugby format, across all three SANZAR territories and around the world, via SANZAR’s broadcast partners.

“For the first time since its inception in 1996, Super Rugby will take on a whole new look in 2011,” said Peters.

“The fifteen teams will take part in a three-conference format which will see all of the teams in each conference tackle each other home and away; supplemented with inter-conference games and culminating in a new, six-team finals series.

“We believe this competition will deliver even more of what our fans in South Africa, Australia and New Zealand are telling us that they love about Super Rugby including more local derbies, intense cross-conference competition and the expanded final series with the guarantee of a home final for each of the conference winners.”

The new-look competition format and the draw for 2011 were revealed, underlining the depth and intensity of competition that will take place within the conferences, and across all 15 teams in the new competition window which will reach its peak with in July 2011.

“These changes promise to take Super Rugby to a whole new level. For all of our fans and especially our younger fans who look forward seeing all of their heroes taking the field in their local colours, 2011 will be a big year in prospect.”

The Super Rugby competition will not only expand to 15 teams in 2011, it will also undergo a significant format revamp. A new three-conference system will be in place where the five teams within each country will make up nationally-based conferences and play their four “local” rivals on a home and away basis (eight games in total).

They will also play four of the other five teams in each of the other two conferences on a home or away basis (another eight games). This leads to an overall program of 16 games per team in the regular season, as opposed to the current 13.

A three-week finals series involving six teams, as opposed to the current two-week play-offs for four teams, will further increase the length of the season.

At the end of the regular season matches, the top team in each conference will qualify for the finals. The other three teams to qualify will be the sides with the most number of competition points, regardless in which conference they are based.

The conference winners are also ensured of a home finals match. Therefore, at least one finals match will be played in each country each year

Super 15: What You Need To Know

The Super Rugby competition will not only expand to 15 teams in 2011, it will also undergo a significant format revamp.

A new three-Conference system will be in place where the five teams within each country will make up nationally-based Conferences and play their four “local” rivals on a home and away basis (eight games in total).

They will also play four of the other five teams in each of the other two Conferences on a home or away basis (another eight games).

This leads to an overall program of 16 games per team in the regular season, as opposed to the current 13 – and separate Australian Conference, South African Conference and New Zealand Conference tables will chart the fortunes of teams in each country.

A three-week finals series involving six teams – as opposed to the current two-week playoffs for four teams – will further increase the length of the season.

At the end of the regular season matches, the top team in each Conference will qualify for the finals.

The other three teams to qualify will be the sides with the most number of competition points – regardless in which Conference they are based.

The Conference winners are also ensured of a home finals match. Therefore, at least one finals match will be played in each country each year.

Super Rugby Snapshot

An increase in overall matches from 94 to 125 (an increase of 33%)
A 50% increase in the length of the season in non-World Cup years – from 16 weeks to 24 weeks
A 31% increase in the length of the season in World Cup years – from 16 weeks to 21 weeks
40 Super Rugby regular season matches played in each country each season as opposed to 26 in Australia under the Super 14 structure and 32 or 33 in South Africa and New Zealand
There will be 20 regular season local derbies in each country as opposed to six in Australia, 10 in South Africa and10 in New Zealand under the Super 14 format
Half of all regular season matches will be local derbies
Each team will play 12 of its 16 regular-season games within its own country – with only four matches overseas
Finals Series Facts

The top team in each Conference will automatically advance to the finals in positions 1, 2 or 3 (depending on their individual competition points totals)
The other three teams to advance will be those with the highest number of competition points outside of the Conference winners
The teams qualifying in 4th, 5th and 6th can come from any Conference – they could all come from one Conference
In week one of the finals the teams qualifying 1st and 2nd will rest
The 3rd placed team, as a Conference winner, will host the 6th placed team in a sudden death Qualifier
The 4th placed team will host the 5th placed team in another sudden death Qualifier
The two winners will play the top two sides in Semis the following week
The winners of the Semis will meet in the Final

sarugby.com

So what will this mean for Currie Cup? I'm still in two minds about this.
 
I don't like it :( It's a farce to get Australia their own domestic league.
 
Even Gavin Rich (rugby journalist of Super Sport) was having difficulty explaining the new format last night on radio. I think they've (SANZAR) complicated the hell out of this thing to justify their existence. What would have been wrong with a round robin of 14 games followed by semis and final? Instead of giving each team one week off, why not give them two weeks off or a week off before the semis? Doesn't make sense.

And what happens to the Currie Cup, or does this run simultaneously to the S15? I enjoy the Currie Cup and it still has its place (especially for the smaller unions like the Griquas, Pumas and Boland).
 
Even Gavin Rich (rugby journalist of Super Sport) was having difficulty explaining the new format last night on radio. I think they've (SANZAR) complicated the hell out of this thing to justify their existence. What would have been wrong with a round robin of 14 games followed by semis and final? Instead of giving each team one week off, why not give them two weeks off or a week off before the semis? Doesn't make sense.

And what happens to the Currie Cup, or does this run simultaneously to the S15? I enjoy the Currie Cup and it still has its place (especially for the smaller unions like the Griquas, Pumas and Boland).

Agreed, the question is how will SARU keep the CC still going and competitive for the future? I think we will only have a defenetive answer in three years time.
 
I also think it's crap and they've given in to the chops who want more 'league' style rugby. This is gonna mess up stuff on a large scale, watch.
 
The new format is going to be "different", I personally do not like it, because it breaks it up into 3 seperate competitions with some oversees games. that sucks! bring back the old format and change it to accomodate 2 off weekends and an extended play-off section.
 
The new format is going to be "different", I personally do not like it, because it breaks it up into 3 seperate competitions with some oversees games. that sucks! bring back the old format and change it to accomodate 2 off weekends and an extended play-off section.

I don't think they will. They are bargaining that the SA public will fill up the stadia more which in turns give SANZAR more money. It's all about quantity rather than quality.
 
It sounds whack.

I don't want more rugby - I want better rugby and this isn't bringing it.

If you look at it each team will play all the other teams except 2 twice. Why not just have every team play every other team twice and the winner is the team that is top of the log if time is the problem?

I struggle to understand the difference between the Sharks playing the Bulls in Currie Cup or super rugby.

Bah! Bean counters have taken over.
 
It sounds whack.

I don't want more rugby - I want better rugby and this isn't bringing it.

If you look at it each team will play all the other teams except 2 twice. Why not just have every team play every other team twice and the winner is the team that is top of the log if time is the problem?

I struggle to understand the difference between the Sharks playing the Bulls in Currie Cup or super rugby.

Bah! Bean counters have taken over.

They only play the same country teams twice. They play 4 of the 5 teams from each other country once. As for the Sharks vs Bulls. Technically that can only happen in Super Rugby, as those teams are franchises. The Bulls franchise is made of the Blue Bulls and Pumas, while the Sharks are now made of only the Natal Sharks. In the Currie Cup, the Blue Bulls would play the Natal Sharks, though they are branded as the Sharks in the CC now too.
 
Freaking confusing. Since Argentina is joining the tri nations add a team from Argentina to make it 16 and have them play in 4groups of 4 then top two of each group will move on to the 2nd group stage (quarter finals might be a better option.) then semis and finals
 
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