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Thread: Suggestion: Time For an Adults Only Section in Off Topic?

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    Default Suggestion: Time For an Adults Only Section in Off Topic?

    I sent a msg to RPM (peace be upon him) asking about the idea of finally adding an adults only section to offtopic, requiring one extra 'agreement' page, where the reader has to click an agreement that they may be confronted with adult or explicit material.

    As this Forum is getting big, the idea that one can maintain a 'nice' non offensive overall content, without chilling or stifling debate, isnt really possible. Many of the bigger forums, on whatever topics, have a 'no holds barred' section, to help members let off steam.

    This doesnt mean any change in the current site censoring software - just that there's a section with an agreement page ahead of it, where anyone can let rip on potentially offensive subjects, and removing the current situation where the more sensitive members get offended 'unexpectedly' and thus run to Mods to complain.
    Currently there's a wide range of topics, idea's, and concepts which - whenever they're discussed - the more sensitive forumites (perhaps justifiably) leap into action to complain about.

    If there's a section where - in order to even access the area - an agreement link has to be clicked, warning the reader that this area may contain offensive material, this removes the ongoing dulling down of the forum - which is what happens when 5000+ members are required to ensure that they say nothing which might be offensive to the average 13 year old child.

    This isn't possible, in reality. And to continually keep this Forum at the safe sensitive level that would not offend a 'sensitive' forumite - is actually contributing towards a stifling of healthy debate, at times. As well as it begs the simple pointing out that - why SHOULD any of us have to censor, stifle, or restrain ourselves - in order to cater to the whims, predjudices and fancies of the more sensitive Forumites?

    That's not freedom of speech - its 'rule by the lowest common denominator'.

    This is not a call for obscenity - its a call for a demarcated area, where concepts, idea's and statements that might offend, are allowed - and the sensitive among us must - in the interests of free speech and democratic thought on the Forum overall, acknowledge that they need to simply keep away from that area - on the offchance that they read something which upsets them.

    An area, where nobody can 'accidentally' read something they might be offended by. Thus everyone, depending on their mood - has a place to rant forth about whatever's bugging them, using whatever language they like.

    I think a new section is required, and would be very healthy for the Forum.

    What say the Forumites? If this seems sensible, and easily achievable, then contact RPM and ask for it.

    If we Forumites don't ask for it, we won't get it.

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    Given that this all came from a harmless post I'd made, and a message from a Mod, requesting that I censor it. I then placed their message asking for censorship on forum - and received a further huffy and grumpy moan from the Mod in question, suggesting that I shouldnt have posted their REQUEST FOR CENSORSHIP on forum - its clear that something is needed to stop the secrecy and potential for abuse that the current situation is providing.

    Think about it - a Mod messages someone to censor a post, and demands secrecy for this censorship request. How's that contribute towards honest, open debate? It doesn't.
    Last edited by LoneGunman; 11-10-2005 at 08:05 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneGunman
    What say the Forumites?
    Great idea!

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    /me worried that the term adults only will prompt the insurgence of porn peddlers. "No holds barred" section is a good idea though.

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    Also exclude posts from this new forum to appear in new topics, and on front page. Would the extra agreement also imply that if you don't agree, you'll never see posts from that forum ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke7777
    Also exclude posts from this new forum to appear in new topics, and on front page. Would the extra agreement also imply that if you don't agree, you'll never see posts from that forum ?
    This has been my suggestion to the other Moderators and RPM.

    I think it is a matter of whether VBulletin has such an option?
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    Might as well just register another domain for the "My...." stable and get it over and done with. At least that way the focus of the MyADSL/MyBroadband forum wont get any more distorted or diluted than it already is and more importantly no legal action will be able to bring MyADSL/Broadband down.

    People have to remember that they are accountable for everything they say and release the MyWhatever™ site from any liability. After all you're talking about creating a section that participants will have to expect that they could find the topics offensive.
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    aww... i thought adults only was all about naughty pics... and stuff like that...

    but it is another alternative... having an adults section... barring the pr0n pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwana v.4
    Might as well just register another domain for the "My...." stable and get it over and done with. At least that way the focus of the MyADSL/MyBroadband forum wont get any more distorted or diluted than it already is and more importantly no legal action will be able to bring MyADSL/Broadband down.
    I have to agree I joined MyADSL to find out what i could do about current issues and I have been most informed here

    IMO there needs to be more done regarding what Telkom is doing and there monopoly what ICASA is doing and what we as forumites can do to help

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    Quote Originally Posted by halicon
    aww... i thought adults only was all about naughty pics... and stuff like that...

    but it is another alternative... having an adults section... barring the pr0n pics.
    lol

    I bet that is why most of the peeps viewed thread which last stood at 91 views and now 9 replys

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    either that or they couldnt get past lgm's famous 10 000 words post...

    but re reading perhaps another name... not Adult...

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    What is an adult ? how can you prove who is over 18 ?
    Love the 'let off steam' .. this whole forum is riddled with steam... kids and ISP who have abused the capping systems and now are crying foul ;-)

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    Create another subforum under Off-Topic. Seems (from another thread) this will protect the forum as well, since the guests apparantly don't read off-topic (stupid, cause it's the best part! ) Call it the Steamhouse...

    While you're considering this change, maybe also think about creating another sub-forum, called Politics, and move all political sensitive rantings and word-fights into that one...

    PS. another suggestion, although I don't know whether vBulletin can handle it: instead of banning people, limit them to be only able to post in the Steamhouse...
    Last edited by ettubrute; 11-10-2005 at 11:09 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ettubrute
    Steamhouse...

    PS. another suggestion, although I don't know whether vBulletin can handle it: instead of banning people, limit them to be only able to post in the Steamhouse...
    sheer brilliance.

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    Aww, thanks man! Seems i still have some brainwaves and flashes of intelligence every once in a while!
    Et tu, Brute?

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    Wouldn't it be possible to create a forum that was "restricted" to a certain group of people.

    If you wanted access to this group you woul request it.. and "sign" or agree to the terms, with some form of proof of age.

    Might be a long way around, and might also get poeple saying that there is an "elite" group of people saying things in certain folders. Part of the rules to this forum, I feel (Agree ..disagree your call)must also include that any mention of any posts from that thread in any other thread will automatically be deleted upon detection?

    Of course there might be many that are of the opinion that if you want to discuss things of this nature.. you take it else where?

    Just giving points of view as I've seen them in other forums with regards to "special forums threads"

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