Good Karma system become a Farce due to some !

[pupa]

I agree with Debbie2 and Vquest about how this good system is degenerated to nothing by some posters. They Yah and Nah for anything

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=29229

I lost points for these posts..

This for which I merrily higlighted a problem with suggesting a solution

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthre...826#post332826

No comment given

And this one for just commenting on a post as a joke, I am allowed to, not?

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthre...171#post328171

Constantly posting the same thing.. seems like a way to boost post count This is utter cr@p whoever posted this karma, What about the TK thread boosting thread count You @ss

And this one I think is from Ic or other mod. I've been told this before

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthre...888#post331888

pupa shows no respect. his way or no way

So I will probably loose more with this thread but that is why I do not really care or give any karma because it is uselless if some @ss will undo the good because his immature or against what you say and not ralating the way or nature of theintended posting like racist, argumentative (That shoul be oK) or abusive, personal attacks

@Mods A good thing will come to none unless You see Debbie2's solution

Yeah I think that maybe the "bad karma" aspect should be taken out. Its actually pretty offensive (yes yes, I know you're not supposed to get offended on the internet, but we all do nonetheless). Earlier I got a bad karma point for asking how one sends an sms from email. The comment consisted solely of "nonsens". Like, wtf? That's not even a word!

I suggest that the system only allow for good karma points. That way, the people who post junk won't get any good karma points anyway.

Maybe only Mods must be able to give negative KARMA with remark

[Vio]

I do not agree with only mod's having control of karma; but I can see it’s a bit disturbing if your posts for no reason seem to get negative rep. I think giving a reason for giving/taking rep should be mandatory I mean if a person keeps receiving negative votes without reason then that person might build up a complex or something hehe. It also helps that person reform if he is getting negative comments due to attitude he shows.

[MaD]

How do u know if someone has given you a disapprove thingymavotey?

[pupa]

On the bottom of user CP green blocks is good, red is bad grey I could not figure but seem also to be bad

As expected I got some more negative points due to this post by some dumb *ss, highliting and agreeing with posters from the links below. Point proven

Vio point is you will always get negative KARMA much easier than positive irrespective, if YOU have a stance for or against anything, I said Mods only to give negative Karma with comment to inform and penalise You. Positive Karma must be deserved and given by anybody. Here are guys on the forum giving negative karma just because you posted

[Vio]

Well I'm just trying to keep this from turning into a "the mods favorites" thing if you know what I mean. But like I said I understand your concern. As you said people are more inclined to give negative rep than positive rep. You could make negative rep count much less per vote than positive rep; obviously it will require some balancing in order to make a negative rep still a alignment changer.

[pupa]

Good idea Vio, Now just to get Antowan to bite. That will work Negative rep much lower (10%) of positeve rep,..... Hmmm

[jarr]

How do u know if someone has given you a disapprove thingymavotey?

just been looking at my control panel, and i've gotten what seems to be "good karma" (judging by the comments) from 2 forumites, with the little blocks being gray in both cases.

so i'm inclined to think that the little blocks represent either the "karma status" of the person who gave the rep point, or correspond to it (because the amount you can give, is determinded by how much you have, as i understand it), and are not an indication of the type of points you've received

could be wrong, of course, just a guess...

[Vio]

LOL so if someone with negative karma gives negative karma they actualy give you positive results

[antowan]

Well I'm just trying to keep this from turning into a "the mods favorites" thing if you know what I mean. But like I said I understand your concern. As you said people are more inclined to give negative rep than positive rep. You could make negative rep count much less per vote than positive rep; obviously it will require some balancing in order to make a negative rep still a alignment changer.

Karma is not a MOD thing at all but a member thing. From a mod point of view our duties are not affected at all by whatever colour your reputation indicator is or what it says.

I suggest you try and vote a bit and see how much damage you can do. You will find that it is very little and you only have 10 karma hits you can dish out in 24 hours, be they good or bad. You cannot affect a person on the same post twice and only once per voting cycle. It is pretty fair and believe me one negative vote by somebody eager enough to dish it out should not affect your overall karma level. I find that people are more inclined to dish out positives than negatives.

In in pupa's case the majority of comments were positive. I know because I can see.

[pupa]

Antowan also read the links to Debbie2. Some oaks do not know what the system is all about. I really do not care but they give negative karma for disagreeing with the post not for your style or attitude or the way you posted.

Also explain the grey block ?? Red is one down, Green is one up, Grey = ?? one up + one down ???

[Kalvaer]

http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/main/main/reputation explains it all as per the first post about the rep system

[pupa]

AFAIK a grey/gray blockie means, that there person did not have sufficient reputation of their own to affect one's own reputation - regardless of approve/disapprove vote - basically their vote has no effect right now, but that can change if they gain reputation [points].

Ok that clears it, Did not read the in-between lines Methink Thanx. Now just lock the threads Hehe

[Karnaugh]

Yes, I have to agree - the reputation points seem to have become a simple and snide knee jerk for some people, who just slam away negativly with no comments simply because they might not even understand what you're saying. "Duuuuu, whats this?!?!? LET ME ARE DISAGREE WITH HIS ARE POSTS"

I think either a comment should be mandatory (and of a cetain length), or the persons name should be given - I don't think it should be a way for little cowards to give their 2c slap.

[antowan]

You all have green Karma icons. What is the problem? You are all well loved it seems. Come on!

[fergus]

I think either a comment should be mandatory (and of a cetain length), or the persons name should be given - I don't think it should be a way for little cowards to give their 2c slap.

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