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Thread: Bush speechwriter blames marijuana, not guns, for Arizona shooting

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    Thumbs down Bush speechwriter blames marijuana, not guns, for Arizona shooting

    http://www.nerve.com/news/current-ev...izona-shooting

    Like many people across the country, conservative pundit and former George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum has some thoughts on the recent tragedy in Arizona. However, his thoughts are not like most's thoughts:
    After horrific shootings, we hear calls for stricter regulation of guns. The Tucson shooting should remind us why we regulate marijuana.

    Jared Lee Loughner, the man held as the Tucson shooter, has been described by those who know as a "pot smoking loner."

    He had two encounters with the law, one for possession of drug paraphernalia.
    He goes on to argue that Loughner's affection for weed, when combined with his mental illness, worsened the situation that things may not have been as bad had drugs been cut out of the equation.

    But hey, you know what really would've made things less deadly if it had been out of the picture? Guns the absence of guns would've made things much, much, much, much less ****ty for everybody involved.
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    Does Bush`s writer know that Bush smoked weed? If what he said was true the world would be a cinder box right now. Clinton, Bush (heck bush did cocaine as well!) and Obama all smoked weed. Epic fail.
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    What an absolute load of horse-****.



    *edit*

    To clarify though, cannabis, or any other mind-altering drug for that matter, should not be used by people with mental issues.

    In any case, I'm not sure WTF this guy is on about - Pot is regulated. Didn't stop him from getting any did it? That's the whole point. What a chop.
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    so, the gun told him to do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by copacetic View Post
    What an absolute load of horse-****.

    Totally, unless the shooter mistook the congresswoman for a vending machine theres no way weed is to blame here. The biggest mistake here was America giving someone who had being thrown out the army for been insane, who had been thrown out of a college for been insane... a gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w1z4rd View Post
    Totally, unless the shooter mistook the congresswoman for a vending machine theres no way weed is to blame here. The biggest mistake here was America giving someone who had being thrown out the army for been insane, who had been thrown out of a college for been insane... a gun.


    I did make an edit though:

    *edit*

    To clarify though, cannabis, or any other mind-altering drug for that matter, should not be used by people with mental issues.

    In any case, I'm not sure WTF this guy is on about - Pot is regulated. Didn't stop him from getting any did it? That's the whole point. What a chop.
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    Reminds me of this article:

    The reflexive call for fewer liberties:

    William Galston -- former Clinton adviser and current Brookings Institution Senior Fellow -- has a column in The New Republic about the Gabrielle Giffords shooting that illustrates the mentality endlessly eroding basic American liberty: namely, the belief that every tragedy must lead to new government powers and new restrictions on core liberties. The lesson of the Arizona tragedy, he argues, is that it's too difficult to force citizens into mental institutions against their will. This, he says, is the fault of "civil libertarians," who began working in the 1970s on legal reforms to require a higher burden of proof for involuntary commitment (generally: it must be proven that the person is a danger to himself or to others). As a result, Galston wants strict new laws imposing a litany of legal obligations on the mentally ill, their friends and family, and even acquaintances, as well as dramatically expanded powers to lock away those with mental illness (with broader definitions of what that means).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garyvdh View Post
    so, the gun told him to do it?
    Nooooo Stooooooooooooooopid the electric spinach did!!
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    He goes on to argue that Loughner's affection for weed, when combined with his mental illness, worsened the situation — that things may not have been as bad had drugs been cut out of the equation.
    Sound sensible to me.


    But hey, you know what really would've made things less deadly if it had been out of the picture? Guns — the absence of guns would've made things much, much, much, much less ****ty for everybody involved.
    How about keeping both weed and guns out the hands of nutcases

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    How about keeping both weed and guns out the hands of nutcases
    sounds like a plan.

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    lol - so he pulled out the bankie, through it at people, killing them with the completely natural plant that grows without human intervention.

    No he picked up a gun, loaded it and pulled the trigger. Removing mindset out of the equation, if he hadnt been able to get his hands on some weapons, this tragedy might not have happened. Its the guns that killed the people, not the herb.

    Weed does not make you aggresive and you need to be mentally insane before you get high to pull something like this off. May as well add that coffee should be banned as well, because when he woke up he had a coffee and because of the caffeine rush, he decided that today he was going to take revenge for watever. Maybe the weed was something he used to quell his current feelings, but being pyscho already, just makes it worse.

    Bottom line, blaming it on the weed is plain ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    How about keeping both weed and guns out the hands of nutcases
    Sounds brilliant, be sure to add a much more dangerous drug to that list. One that destroys the body, makes people violent, and speeds along dementia. The drug that kills people daily.... Booze.

    A psycho drunk is infinity worse than a psycho stoned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w1z4rd View Post
    Sounds brilliant, be sure to add a much more dangerous drug to that list. One that destroys the body, makes people violent, and speeds along dementia. The drug that kills people daily.... Booze.

    A psycho drunk is infinity worse than a psycho stoned.
    +10000

    Weed has and still is used by chilled out people for chilled out reasons. Its used in meditation techniques and various religious aspects. Its used as a relaxant and 99% of all smokers are chilled out non aggressive people.
    You cannot say the same about booze, infact its completely opposite and has a seriously negative effect on society.

    Booze is the biggest problem on this planet.
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    Drunkards get the punchies, stoners get the munchies.
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    ^ -i like it
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