Definitely. I'd even say that the speakers may not be half bad, however it's the receiver that lets everything down. HDMI repeating is a must for me.Originally Posted by PostmanPot
Definitely. I'd even say that the speakers may not be half bad, however it's the receiver that lets everything down. HDMI repeating is a must for me.
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I would have liked HDMI repeating, but it was out of my price range. I don't mind having audio over optical/SPDIF. I realise this isn't HD, but still - more than good enough for me, and most people.
So Postman - you don't see the value in a R3,999 Yamaha amplifer?
What exactly did you process in order to get to that question?
Wow - its like we are living to two different worlds :/
But at least we agree that it offers awesome value and should be looked at!
That may be so, but I'd still like to know how you got to that question, and the slight presumption that I don't see value in the R3,999 Yamaha amp?
Guys take this elsewhere, srsly!
I recently purchased a pair of these : http://emotiva.com/upa1.shtm and boy am i pleased, i mean there very few bargains in this game but these guys are teeming with awesome gear, great service and most of all excellent prices. True bang for buck stuff.
Those yammies will kick the Sony system's ass. Don't know where you get the no mids info from?
Those "big" Sony speakers are actually quite poorly put together.
I might be mistaken, but I also think that that Sony receiver doesn't do sound over HDMI?
The difference between buying a HTiB setup compared to separate components is that the price defines the quality. I have my heart set on either a Pioneer 920, onkyo 608, yamaha 567 or better still, a Marantz 1601 or 6005 but that excludes good speakers like monitor audio or b&w's for less than R3000. And what about surrounds and a sub ?
In that case, I rather save (yes, save) up and buy an onkyo HTS 5305 for R5,500 and I'm done. I mean compare that price to the boston soundware X1's 5.1 speaker set alone.
I can always upgrade after 5 to 10 years...
Bargains : a shop in menlyn is clearing some demo stock. Marantz SR7500 for R4500 and I'm guessing they are negotiable, also other older Yamaha receivers and other products.
To my understanding, the Yamaha "5"[.1] speakers have 1 driver that "attempts" to produce mids and treble. I stand to be corrected.
Where the Sony's front floor-standing speakers have separate drivers for treble, mid and low.
You are right - the STR-500 does not do sound over HDMI (needs optical/SPDIF). That's how it is with R3,999 "value" systems.
I have this amps bigger brother and listened to a simlar model at Simplex recently, decent amp for cheap.
But what I think you're missing, is that value isn't the cheapest?
An R8,000 system could easily offer more value than a R4,000 system.
And again you seem to be judging by size and what the drivers do? You know the Logitech Z2300 also have a single driver and sounds very good and are THX certified?
Please stop misinterpreting what I'm saying. I've not said once that a R8,000 system can't offer more value than a R4,000 system. How you come to that deduction, I really don't know. Anyway, a R8,000 system's value means zip-all when you have a budget of less. Go back and read my posts.
The Z-2300 satellites are rated poorly by enthusiasts (who often mod them by attaching bookshelf speakers). I haven't really critiqued mine yet but I'm very happy. But when I tested these Krators I could immediately hear that they offered a fuller sound with clearer highs and mids (although the lows were lacking because I'm used to a sub). Why would you think that they offer a fuller sound, Dolby?
And that is my point. Separate drivers offer fuller, more accurate sound. You surely agree with that? I can see that that Yamaha set only has one driver per satellite. Not at all saying the sound quality will be bad, just that it would lack compared to speakers with separate drivers.
About the THX certification. I did a lot of reading on the Z-2300s and from what I can remember the certification was based more around the efficiency of the amp at high volume levels, lack of distortion at its 200watt RMS rating or something or other - not entirely based the quality of sound from the speakers. I'd be interested to hear what you think about that.
Argh ... I'm not going to derail
Here's another deal that I feel is great for people looking for a pseudo surround effect without the issues.
LG Soundbar for around R8,000.00 at some stores
http://www.lg.com/uk/tv-audio-video/.../LG-HLB54S.jsp
Built in Bluray player (BD Live)
HD codecs
Built in Wireless (b/g/n)
Wireless subwoofer
DLNA with LAN port / USB
2 x HDMI in
Upscaling to 1080
iPod docking station
Last edited by Dolby; 15-01-2011 at 01:09 PM.
Fair enough, pity you didn't think of that earlier.
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