G'day, SEF. Apologies for interjecting so rudely - my tolly-meter woke me...Originally Posted by SEF
Without the body cease to exist. Please offer some evidence if you wish to attest otherwise.
G'day, SEF. Apologies for interjecting so rudely - my tolly-meter woke me...
Without the body cease to exist. Please offer some evidence if you wish to attest otherwise.
I study the bible, but i don't follow it. There's valuable information in there that compliments other sacred texts like the koran and the gita. They all compliment each other.
What will happen to you ? You will just cross over and choose your path from there.
Interesting.
Well, the bottom line is that you are inventing realities for which there is zero evidence.
Which is fine, just not particularly useful in my view.
What do you mean with "spiritual evolution"? And where'd you come up with your idea of what this creator is, or isn't? Why do you think such a creator exists? How do you know he wants harmony in the cosmos?
As I pointed out in a previous post, we cannot just "do what we want", our options are actually extremely limited, given all the hypothetical possibilities.
It is also hypothetically possible for a creator to not be omnipotent. His only power could be to create, as in a once-off kind of thing. I'm not sure you realise what omnipotence entails...
If the choice you end up making is known by an omniscient being, then it means there can only be 1 outcome. It's the illusion of choice, as you think you have many possible choices, but in reality only 1 answer is correct. You are effectively "not allowed" to choose the outcome that is not known.
Oh, and be sure to ask those 180 christians killed by Boko Haram in Nigeria how things "just worked out" for them.
"Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing-glove..."
Yes, of course there can be many creators. One set of creators creates planets, others create life on planets, and so on.
From my understanding there is a Supreme Creator responsible for the creating the cosmos and keeping harmony.
To answer your questions:
1) Spiritual evolution means the more you evolve, the more you understand and learn about the Creator and your place in the universe.
2) Through my understanding of what has been taught through the ages and my experience of it.
3) Read point 2
4) Existence is a collective experience of all things alive. You begin to see patterns and how things work. From those things you draw conclusions.
Zero evidence in an existence used to studying matter. But scientists are catching up.
They've discovered that the universe is holographic, they've recently discovered you can heal yourself through your thoughts. They're getting there albeit at snails pace.
Things which the non matter universe have been revealing for ages.
What a crock!
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Atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sexual position - Bill Maher
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Catching up to what, exactly? You are presupposing realms for which there is simply no evidence, at all.
You will have to expand on that, please.They've discovered that the universe is holographic,
This is not new, this has been common knowledge for just about as long as we've had medical science. It's obviously fairly limited though, we can't regrow lost limbs or anything. In any case, what does this have to do with spirituality?they've recently discovered you can heal yourself through your thoughts.
Again, getting where? You are inventing parts of reality, and then confidently asserting that science will get there eventually, but you've no reason whatsoever to presuppose these aspects of the universe in the first place.They're getting there albeit at snails pace.
The non-matter universe? What on earth is that? If it's non-matter, how are we meant to detect, interact, or experience it?Things which the non matter universe have been revealing for ages.
SEF: 10 questions to put to your spiritual studies:
Just slightly off topic, who here has read the Bhagavad Gita?
David Icke couldn't make up the **** in this thread...
The Ashari Creed is based on Ilm ul Kalaam, which (if memory serves correct [and I have avery limited knowledge of this]) was not applicable for centuries (I stand to be corrected on this one). However the principle remains, if I'm wrong. Also, it must be noted that the Ashari Creed is based on actual writings proven to have been written long after the currently accpeted doctrines of the muslim faith. Imams have spent centuries trying to tie the Ashari Creed into the official doctrines correctly but really come up short every single time...
Never mind the incompatibility of omniscience and free will. The fact that I was forced into having free will is a paradox in itself. If I were given the choice at the outset, I would've opted out of this silly idea, and sidestepped all the pesky landmines obstructing my path to everlasting bliss.
There is no such thing as free will. There is the illusion of free will. Fact is everyone is forced to make a choice by the circumstances they find themselves in.
It is our very own desires which limit our free will and force us into a direction. We think because we chose the easy way we had free will to do so? Even people who supposedly take the hard choice, have taken a decision based on a thought process to determine the best choice for them. They just assessed the risks differently and maybe even got lucky.
Every time you use a nested table(Oracle) a puppy dies
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