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Thread: 22seven online money management tool launched in South Africa

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    22seven online money management tool launched in South Africa

    22seven claims to blend behavioural science, play and technology to create new generation money management service

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    Beta....you would be crazy to enter your credentials....
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    mm i'll keep my details thanks
    I know i overspend....! Don't need these guys to tell me that lol

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    Signin up. Giving it a try...

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    So pretty much exactly the same as https://www.wesabe.com was (before closing down due to lack of interest). And the legion of other money management sites out there...

    Personally, I'm not giving my internet banking credentials to anyone.
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    This model is very popular overseas, but don't dig entering in my account details.

    I would use the service if I could import data from internet banking manually.

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    For the sake of completeness, here's the press release.

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    Independent online personal financial service, 22seven, launches into a world grappling with its fifth consecutive year of economic volatility. For consumers it’s tough and the question we are all asking ourselves, apart from how long is this recession going to last, is “how do we make ends meet?”

    “Our service doesn’t have all the answers but it does have a few insights,” says Christo Davel, CEO of 22seven. “22seven is founded on the idea that if we become more aware of why we make the decisions we do, we will be in a better position to make smarter money choices.”

    Money management is not a new concept. Yet, in spite of having more financial tools and advice available than ever before it seems that people are feeling less in control, rather than more.

    The team at 22seven believes the flaw is that traditional financial management tools rely on objectivity, rationality, budgeting and discipline. “The reliance on purely empirical data to make decisions is the problem,” says Davel. “People are hardwired to make choices on instinct, intuition and emotion. It doesn’t matter how many budgets we do or how many books we read, we will still act like the complex, emotionally governed human beings we are.”

    22seven offers insight into how people make their money choices and guides them to being and feeling in control of their financial lives.

    The online service uses a blend of intuitively presented data, empathy for the human condition and a sense of play to help customers become more conscious of their financial decisions.

    A core element is the concept of play and the importance of what game designers term ‘productive failure’, or learning from mistakes to improve decision making.

    “Playing gives us permission to try things we wouldn’t dream of doing in real life. Rather than fear failure we use it to learn and improve. This is exactly the kind of financial learning environment we want to create. 22seven must give us a chance to play in the ‘what if’ space of our money,” says Davel.

    Another strategic component is behavioural economics, the study of the social, cognitive and emotional impulses that drive economic decision-making. “We have used this body of knowledge to understand why we are stupid when it comes to money and to design a service that highlights where common mistakes are made,” says Davel.

    22seven is currently a South African focused service that makes it possible to automatically gather transaction information from local bank accounts, credit and store cards.

    The launch version is in beta and will be free. Once ready, 22seven will cost R70 per month with the first month free.

    When discussing the subscription based business model, Davel reiterates the importance of independence. “We will never recommend products or service providers to our users and will never be a sales channel for financial institutions. By charging a subscription we are aligning our commercial intent with the happiness of our clients. We have to consistently add value to customers’ lives or go out of business,” says Davel.

    “22seven is a personal money service that knows that emotion, sentiment and desire are more powerful than rationality when it comes to decision making. It works with our humanness rather than against it,” concludes Davel.

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    R70 a month to tell me I overspend... Um.. No thanks
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    However, this feature is also one of the company’s biggest challenges. It requires that you enter your online banking authentication information. All of it. If you have a PIN and password you need to enter both.
    Yeah riiiiiight!

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    For those that don't trust a third party with their internet banking login details (I certainly don't), and want a smartphone solution, try ExpenZa (currently Android only, other platforms to follow): https://market.android.com/details?i...ance.expenseza

    Disclaimer: I'm the developer of ExpenZa.

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    There's also MoneySmart, with which you simply upload your bank statements (ie. no password etc.) needs to be provided: https://moneysmart.co.za/
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    So it's an SA version of the popular mint.com site

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    So wait, I'm paying R70 a month for a calculator that adds up the debit and credit columns of my bank account and turns it into a 'bubble'? Sign me up!

    Also, how is this tool supposed to know what I spend my money on? If it is a bunch of cash withdrawls and debit orders, how will it know I spent R900 on beer and lotto tickets?

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    I think this is great, these kind of sites are very popular overseas. In fact I have been using money strands for about 9 months now and think its great but you have to manualy add every bit of money that you bring in and out.

    When moneysmart.co.za came out I tried it out and thought it was even better than money.strands.com but its a lot of work moving over now with 22seven it looks awesome.

    If you willing to give up your credentials I would go for 22seven if you arnt then moneysmart is awesomely cool! Gone are the days you have to use mint.com with a $ next to your amount.
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    Website doesn't seem to support chrome

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilstebunny View Post
    Yeah riiiiiight!
    And this after the banks made so much effort, spend so much money and time to tell people not to divulge this information to anyone, along come these guys and ask for it and give their word that it is safe. They must be smoking too much of the good stuff.

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