Shaped and Unshaped?

[cisco_trouble]

Could anyone explain this...

[Tsimo]

As far as I know the ISP gives a higher priority to certain kinds of traffic. Thus shaped would mean that peer to peer applications that don't use well known ports will have limited bandwidth available. Well known services include Email and web traffic

[stoke]

On the money tsimo.
More technical:
SAIX use a packet inspector on the international fibre line to New York and some other place I forgot. The aim of the packet sniffer is that, when the line is being fully utilised, priority is given to HTTP requests first. This is to ensure that the average browsing CEO see's a fast internet response from his ISP. In the back room, the IT people are tyring to download a file using FTP, these FTP packets are delayed by the HTTP packets and therefore perform slower. Then you get VOIP packets which seem to be getting really low priority. And the list of different types of network packets goes on and on and on ... each given their own priority.

Now ... this is all good an well, because packet shaping is only supposed to kick in when the line is beginning to become conjested.

What they fail to mention is that the very act of inspecting the packets slows the transfer rate down dramatically. So ... they now inspect packets when the line is busy or idle, otherwise users will have extremely low latency, and then as conjection starts to take effect, the users will suddenly have insurmountable latency adding to the conjestion on the line.

Nobody wants to try just turning off the shaping mechanism, cos they've spent huuuuge amounts of money on it, and there's this whole crew of people looking after it, so everybody just plays along nicely.

Strangely enough ... the unshaped ISP service [which is running on a line that is much simpler and chaper to manage] is muuuch more expensive than the shaped package.

How to beat the shaping : They cannot inspect encrypted [e.g. ssl] packages so you can enctypt your communication software and all your communication will recieve the same priority as an SSL package [usually 1 below HTTP].

Side : They also run a massive proxy server[s] that save them tons of bandwidth by not continuously retrieving the same data from overseas - those savings are in turn handed over to mr monolith.

Bah.

[Freakazo-=ZA=-]

As far as I`m aware the cheapest way to get unshaped is using payvpn from nukecap thats what I`m going to do

but so far didn`t see any real evidence of games internasionall server lag being hlower with payvpn

Does anybody have before and after specs ,especially with bf2 servers

[jetFlash]

On the money tsimo.
More technical:
SAIX use a packet inspector on the international fibre line to New York and some other place I forgot. The aim of the packet sniffer is that, when the line is being fully utilised, priority is given to HTTP requests first. This is to ensure that the average browsing CEO see's a fast internet response from his ISP. In the back room, the IT people are tyring to download a file using FTP, these FTP packets are delayed by the HTTP packets and therefore perform slower. Then you get VOIP packets which seem to be getting really low priority. And the list of different types of network packets goes on and on and on ... each given their own priority.

Now ... this is all good an well, because packet shaping is only supposed to kick in when the line is beginning to become conjested.

What they fail to mention is that the very act of inspecting the packets slows the transfer rate down dramatically. So ... they now inspect packets when the line is busy or idle, otherwise users will have extremely low latency, and then as conjection starts to take effect, the users will suddenly have insurmountable latency adding to the conjestion on the line.

Nobody wants to try just turning off the shaping mechanism, cos they've spent huuuuge amounts of money on it, and there's this whole crew of people looking after it, so everybody just plays along nicely.

Strangely enough ... the unshaped ISP service [which is running on a line that is much simpler and chaper to manage] is muuuch more expensive than the shaped package.

How to beat the shaping : They cannot inspect encrypted [e.g. ssl] packages so you can enctypt your communication software and all your communication will recieve the same priority as an SSL package [usually 1 below HTTP].

Side : They also run a massive proxy server[s] that save them tons of bandwidth by not continuously retrieving the same data from overseas - those savings are in turn handed over to mr monolith.

Bah.

tunnel your non priority traffic though http then it gets priority :-)