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Thread: Cape Town vs Johannesburg SAP billing system

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    Cape Town vs Joburg SAP billing system

    Cape Time implemented it in one year; Joburg has spent two years and there is no result

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    It is a continual source of annoyance when I hear that Cape Town not an African City or not African enough.
    Cape Town works because it is not an African City.

    Those who want to live in an African City have the rest of the continent to play with.

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    CoJ is in tatters. Look at the state of their traffic signal system. Every day we here in Cape Town hear about it. There's even a guy who wants help them out with mobile traffic signals on bikes ...

    Bottom line: NEVER LET RACE PROFILING POLICIES INTERFERE WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT SERVICE DELIVERY! The ANC broke Local Government and can't fix it with the people they brought in. Those who successfully did the work for years are now helping local governments in Canada, Australia and NZ. They were pushed out and replaced. Who can and will fix the mess that gets worse and worse by the day?
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    There was a time when those who could do the work was pushed out to consultants/contractors to still help out from the outside ... ie carry the new one on the inside until they could do it themselves. But then the same racial profiling was demanded from these consulting/contracting firms and they were forced to bring in inexperienced people. Now the blind leads the blind to the edge.
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    Just a note on the political front... the ANC was in power in Cape Town when SAP integration was planned and rolled out... not the DA... DA took over while the process was underway. I worked for Cape Town Muni while the roll-out was on the go, and the success was more to do with a solid plan and controlled roll-out than any political party! Kudo's to the CT IT dept for getting it right! I'd take a look at who(which service providers/partners) are/were involved in each SAP roll-out to see where it went wrong or right!

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    Cape Town almost went the same route but Helen Zille and her team turned the ship around and demanded that competency be the only rule for employment at the City. Interestingly enough the City has very competent people from ALL race groups but they were appointed not on the basis of who they know but on what they know.
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    For all these local government problems to go away the ANC government must stop its racial profiling demands at local government level and let these organisations get whomever is necessary to do what needs to be done. We hear there is a shortage of engineers and technicians but why are so many without work? Because employing them will break the local governments race profiling achievement graph?
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    Everybody with common sense should move to cape town! Wait, lets just get the drugs and gang violence under control and we're the ****!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeVonk! View Post
    For all these local government problems to go away the ANC government must stop its racial profiling demands at local government level and let these organisations get whomever is necessary to do what needs to be done. We hear there is a shortage of engineers and technicians but why are so many without work? Because employing them will break the local governments race profiling achievement graph?
    100% correct!

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    Lets hope the plan of action which they have will work, otherwise we are screwed!

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    The sad part is that the City of Cape Town sits with tons of skilled people that will gladly help Joburg sort out its problems but the ANC fears that asking for help will be an admission of DA superiority. They will rather see Joburg fall apart than ask a DA-run City for help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeVonk! View Post
    Cape Town almost went the same route but Helen Zille and her team turned the ship around and demanded that competency be the only rule for employment at the City. Interestingly enough the City has very competent people from ALL race groups but they were appointed not on the basis of who they know but on what they know.
    BeVonk get you facts straight, Helen had nothing to do with successful implementation of SAP in Cape Town. SAP Utilities in CT was implemented by Accenture. Implementation of new system is highly dependent on successful migration of data, I believe this is where Jo burg went wrong. Also at City of Joburg Accenture and IBM was involved in the implementation of SAP, but the politics took over Accenture got kicked out Masana was appointed. When Masana got bust EOH took over, but these companies have resources that aren't skilled enough and they use so called Indian experts !! Who don't have fly clue what they are doing.

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    City of Tshwane also runs SAP. With minimal problems

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