The Robert Bales - Afghan Massacre Case

[Ou grote]

Whew, strange that Google only returns RT links for this article huh .........

That's where informed and unbiased people go for their news.

[killadoob]

Mephesto your googling skillz must suck something horrific bud .

It came directly from the afghan news and not RT. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panjwai_shooting_spree although there is no way people will believe afghans over nato, i mean surely nato would not lie to people. O wait

Lino if you don't have anything of interest to say perhaps it's best to just leave the thread alone surely?
O look www.cnn.com is running the story. http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/16/wo...html?hpt=hp_t2
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...82F0PV20120316

OMG another one running the story, what is going on here guys, didn't RT fabricate and lie or something, perhaps the western papers are now also lying and fabricating stories. Perhaps the afghan president is the liar.

[copacetic]

Like I said.... if it was one or twenty... what difference is it going to make now?

One lone nut as opposed to a concerted attack by a group, makes for very different stories. One is palatable, although awful, the other is completely unacceptable insanity and barbarism.

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Not that I'm endorsing one story or the other, I've no clue, haven't even read the article in this thread, it's Friday, could not be arsed.

[killadoob]

One lone nut as opposed to a concerted attack by a group, makes for very different stories. One is palatable, although awful, the other is completely unacceptable insanity and barbarism.

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Not that I'm endorsing one story or the other, I've no clue, haven't even read the article in this thread, it's Friday, could not be arsed.

Right now nato know they can lie and many ignorant people will believe them. So the only evidence they have has been taken out the country and now it's nato vs the afghans and who do you think people will believe without a doubt copa? Nato of course because nato are good and would never lie . It's like a cult when the west say something bang belief. Even when they are proven to be liars people still believe everything they say.

[Ou grote]

Right now nato know they can lie and many ignorant people will believe them. So the only evidence they have has been taken out the country and now it's nato vs the afghans and who do you think people will believe without a doubt copa? Nato of course because nato are good and would never lie . It's like a cult when the west say something bang belief. Even when they are proven to be liars people still believe everything they say.

There is no actual witness who saw 20 people, we don't know how many weapons were used (that would be a good tell), the helicopters dropping chaff is a bit odd to say the least.
All we have is assumptions.

[Garyvdh]

Yet a suicide bomber killing innocent people is not a war situation gary, omg this is so funny.

This is not an international incident, it is straight up without a doubt an act of terror gary, absolutely no difference between a suicide bomber killing americans or americans killing afghans.

Why is a suicide bomber targeting american soldiers called a terrorist but an american soldier killing innocent people on purpose gets called an incident? What kind of logic are we dealing with here?

This was a terrorist act, simple as that and anyone who aided in this attack should be killed or sent to a prison without trial, isn't that how it works gary?

Insane.

Why are you arguing with me? I never said it wasn't a terrorist attack.
Terrorist attacks can still take place in a war situation.

Jeeezuyz, Killa, even when I am agreeing with you, you still attack me.

[wily me]

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Wow i can bet you right now that nobody will believe witness accounts and will believe the word of nato.

Insane to think up to 19 terrorists could be freely carrying on like nothing happened.

You believe the USA do not want to implicate and penalize the other soldiers? What a joke. Come now killa your agenda starts to stink reaps of BS now. Lets wait for the investigations to complete, if there are more soldiers involved they will be taken to task.

[assassin]

You believe the USA do not want to implicate and penalize the other soldiers? What a joke. Come now killa your agenda starts to stink reaps of BS now. Lets wait for the investigations to complete, if there are more soldiers involved they will be taken to task.

Well its going to be a military court so don't expect much. If the US were serious they would have left him to be tried in the same country he committed his crime.

Now the stories making rounds are:

- Saw his fellow soldiers leg blown off
- didn't want to be deployed there in the first place

By the time he is tried, the media would have moved on to something else. slap on the wrists and may be a stay in a nuthouse to overcome PTSD.

Btw original poster is correct this is a terrorist/terrorists,they certainly fit the definition

[VJB 449]

Sounds like BS to me. What's up with the reference to American terrorists? Immediate loss of credibility.

[alloytoo]

20 soldiers, 19 victims?

One would imagine that 20 trained soldiers would a) be a bit more efficient b)leave no witnesses. c) use some heavy artillery

[killadoob]

Sounds like BS to me. What's up with the reference to American terrorists? Immediate loss of credibility.

What should they have been called then just as a matter of interest? The reference was to clearly point out americans were involved in the attack.

Norwegian terrorist stirs multiculturalism opponents

So what would you call that guy?

20 soldiers, 19 victims?

One would imagine that 20 trained soldiers would a) be a bit more efficient b)leave no witnesses. c) use some heavy artillery

American soldiers, who they described as laughing and drunk. ...

Hmmm you could be right depending on their level of dronkness . Most people cannot walk straight let alone shoot straight when they are drunk. Also drinking makes you very sloppy and arrogant. More than likely didn't feel the need to ensure nobody found out, discharged and 3 month suspended sentence sounds pretty sweet. That is basically what the other guy got for murdering innocent people in afghanistan or iraq

[Mineer]

Like I said.... if it was one or twenty... what difference is it going to make now?

I am no psychologist, but I think it would be easy to defend 1 guy went crazy story , than 20 guys went crazy at the same time, with a common goal, I might add

[Garyvdh]

I am no psychologist, but I think it would be easy to defend 1 guy went crazy story , than 20 guys went crazy at the same time, with a common goal, I might add

Doesn't really look like the US is planning on defending ANYTHING are they now?

[Mineer]

Doesn't really look like the US is planning on defending ANYTHING are they now?

you got a point I suppose

[Garyvdh]

you got a point I suppose

and in this case, I am agreeing with you guys that they should face the consequences of this reprehensible action. It is inexcusable. The death of 16 innocent people alone is shocking, but the US actions after the fact are utterly disgusting.

Afghanistan will most likely cease co-operation with the US... and they would be fully justified in doing so.
Most likely Pakistan has already gone that route as well.

They should just rename the US Foreign Policy Manual... call it "How to P!$$ off countries and make enemies of people groups"