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Thread: The Anders Breivik 2011 Norway Shootings

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    Quote Originally Posted by beans100 View Post
    See they're keeping him fed. He looks fatter than last yea when they caught him.
    It's kind of their "doctrine".

    Human beings are blank slates when they are born, society is responsible for what individuals become, individuals are not responsible.
    We are all victims to our circumstances, including Breivik
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHiveMind View Post
    It's kind of their "doctrine".

    Human beings are blank slates when they are born, society is responsible for what individuals become, individuals are not responsible.
    We are all victims to our circumstances, including Breivik
    I dont believe that at all. Habitat makes up a part of your phenotype.

    I was born into a racist, conservative right wing country and I am none of those things.

    The dude had a bunch of crazy fringe beliefs, and all of those beliefs required the suspension of rationality to some degree or another. I think we should stop respecting crazy beliefs and tell them for what they are. Harmful and negative.

    Just off the top of my head, some of the crazy beliefs I think that lower your abilities to think rationally that he had are:
    - his christian fundamentalism
    - market fundamentalism
    - his whack right wing racist anti-multiculturalism

    None of those are the main themes in Norway. Theyre fringe internet beliefs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghoti View Post
    I dont believe that at all. Habitat makes up a part of your phenotype.

    I was born into a racist, conservative right wing country and I am none of those things.
    I don't believe it either.

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    This guys only goal is to get media attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hoxbig View Post
    Probably not so funny for the victims families though, I'm sure that they're mortified at his statement. This twat doesn't deserve the death penalty, that's too kind - he deserves a life sentence of torture.
    i'm not laughing at the victims families or anyone else who suffered. i'm laughing at the idiot's stupidity, for him to think that intelligent people will buy his reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celine View Post
    i'm not laughing at the victims families or anyone else who suffered. i'm laughing at the idiot's stupidity, for him to think that intelligent people will buy his reasoning.
    Yeah I wasn't taking off with you, sorry Just saying that they probably don't see it in that light.
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    I wonder if he thought he would have more success.

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    Thumbs down Norway killer Anders Breivik ruled sane, given 21-year prison term

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/24/wo...html?hpt=hp_t1

    Oslo, Norway (CNN) -- Anders Behring Breivik, the man who killed 77 people in a bomb attack and gun rampage just over a year ago, was judged to be sane Friday by a Norwegian court, as he was sentenced to 21 years in prison.

    Breivik was charged with voluntary homicide and committing acts of terror over the attacks in Oslo and Utoya Island on July 22, 2011.

    The issue of Breivik's sanity, on which mental health experts have given conflicting opinions, was central to the court's ruling.

    Breivik, who boasts of being an ultranationalist who killed his victims to fight multiculturalism in Norway, wanted to be ruled sane so that his actions weren't dismissed as those of a madman.

    He says he acted out of "necessity" to prevent the "Islamization" of his country.

    But prosecutors had asked that Breivik, 33, be acquitted on the grounds of insanity, in which case he would have been held in a secure mental health unit.

    The unanimous verdict was delivered at Oslo district court by a panel of five judges.

    Breivik, dressed in a dark suit and tie, had a slight smile on his face as the decision was given.

    He was sentenced to the maximum possible term of 21 years and was ordered to serve a minimum of 10 years in prison. The time he has already spent in prison counts toward the term.

    The sentence could be extended in the future if he is considered still to pose a threat to society.

    Reading the court's verdict, Judge Wenche Elizabeth Arntzen spoke of Breivik's own "manifesto," a document published online in which he set out his ultranationalist political views.

    Breivik claimed to belong to a far-right group called the Knights Templar but the court found no evidence of its existence, the judge said.

    He described his actions as a preemptive attack in defense of ethnic Norwegian people and culture, the court heard.

    Breivik trained for his attack by working out in the gym, running with a backpack filled with rocks and practicing at a shooting club, the court heard.

    He was under the influence of ephedrine, a stimulant, at the time of the attacks, and the possibility that this contributed to his behavior cannot be ruled out, Judge Arne Lyng said.

    He used meditation techniques to cut off his emotions, Lyng said.

    In the course of the 10-week trial, which wrapped up in June, the court heard chilling evidence from some of those who survived Breivik's shooting spree on Utoya Island, in which 69 people died -- most of them teenagers attending a Labour Party summer youth camp.
    Inside the Norway terror suspect's mind

    In his own testimony, given without any display of emotion, Breivik recounted firing more bullets into teenagers who were injured and couldn't escape, killing those who tried to "play dead" and driving others into the sea to drown.
    Alleged mass killer shows no remorse
    Prosecution concerned with Breivik sanity

    His fertilizer bomb attack against government buildings in Oslo also killed eight people and injured many more.

    It was only luck that more people were not killed and hurt in the blast, the court heard.

    Breivik blamed the Labour Party in particular for promoting multiculturalism in Norway.

    He has been held in Ila Prison since his detention after the killings.

    Defense lawyer Geir Lippestad has previously said it is important to Breivik that people see him as sane so they don't dismiss his views.

    During his trial, Breivik promised that he would not appeal if the court found him criminally responsible for his actions.

    Breivik's rampage, the worst atrocity on Norwegian soil since World War II, prompted much soul-searching.

    Norwegians reasserted their commitment to multiculturalism and tolerance at a series of mass public tributes held in the immediate aftermath of the massacre.

    And earlier this month, Norway's chief of police stepped down after an independent commission detailed a catalog of police and intelligence failures.

    It concluded that those errors cost police 30 minutes in getting to Utoya, and that dozens of lives might have been saved.

    Speaking last month on the anniversary of the killings, Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg urged Norwegians to "honor the dead by celebrating life," and said Breivik had failed in his attempt to change Norway's values.
    Minimum ten years with time already served.
    What a joke.

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    Wtf.

    I want he's lawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MexicanStandoff View Post
    Wtf.

    I want he's lawyer.
    You don't need a lawyer, that is the max you can get in Norway.
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    Scandinavian penalties are very lax.
    Day of the coon.

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    That is less than 4 months for each murder, disgraceful.

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    He's lucky on all counts, based on his location. Let's see if he survives the prison term. He's bound to have peeved off a few inmates there and a few to join him over the next two decades...
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    Yeah it makes a bit of a mockery with regards to the Norwegian law

    kill 77 people and can only get 21 years in jail. Should be in for life.
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    so he'll be out before he's 55? Wow. 77 people dead.
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