Would it be acceptable to non-Gauteng people if levies are used to pay SANRAL?

[McT]

IMHO, each province should be financially responsbile for its own infastructure. This would light fires under the butts of bottom feeder provinces that just drain the country's finances. The whole idea of fuel levies that everyone thinks is a better alternative is also incredibly unfair. Is it fair to the guy who rides a few km to work on his scooter/bike who never needs to use the highways? Or how about the builder than needs to run generators to do his job?

Say the fuel levies and standard tolling finances the project, do you really think they will remove the levies once everything has been paid off? Do you think we will get some relief from the ever increasing cost of fuel? First chance I get, I will be moving over to privately made and sold biodiesel.

The likes of Gauteng, Western Cape and KZN would not have a problem with this. It would however destroy Limpopo, Free State and Eastern Cape. Severeimbalance in the country as a whole. It would not work.

[Sly21C]

IMHO, each province should be financially responsbile for its own infastructure. This would light fires under the butts of bottom feeder provinces that just drain the country's finances. The whole idea of fuel levies that everyone thinks is a better alternative is also incredibly unfair. Is it fair to the guy who rides a few km to work on his scooter/bike who never needs to use the highways? Or how about the builder than needs to run generators to do his job?

Say the fuel levies and standard tolling finances the project, do you really think they will remove the levies once everything has been paid off? Do you think we will get some relief from the ever increasing cost of fuel? First chance I get, I will be moving over to privately made and sold biodiesel.

What's your alternative? If you wish Gauteng repay it's own debt for the improved freeway infrastructure then how should they do it? e-tolling is the only way if you want Gauteng to be responsible for its finances?

[milomak]

So is the goverments private planes. If current funds weren't used incorrectly then we wouldn't have to suffer for it. Its time the looting was stopped people can and will only afford so much!

Just saying that in this case you would be able to directly view what you are paying for. Slush funds have very little to do with it.

[TheGuy]

IMHO, each province should be financially responsbile for its own infastructure. This would light fires under the butts of bottom feeder provinces that just drain the country's finances. The whole idea of fuel levies that everyone thinks is a better alternative is also incredibly unfair. Is it fair to the guy who rides a few km to work on his scooter/bike who never needs to use the highways? Or how about the builder than needs to run generators to do his job?

That guy and builder most likely get their fuel, equipment and food from trucks running on those same roads. Those roads also provide jobs and opportunity for anyone in the country they can use those roads in anyway they like.

[Cadavre777]

The likes of Gauteng, Western Cape and KZN would not have a problem with this. It would however destroy Limpopo, Free State and Eastern Cape. Severeimbalance in the country as a whole. It would not work.

What's your alternative? If you wish Gauteng repay it's own debt for the improved freeway infrastructure then how should they do it? e-tolling is the only way if you want Gauteng to be responsible for its finances?

Sorry, I don't have all the answers, just an opinion. With the damage already done, there is no favourable solution to the problem. All we can hope for is a lesser of the two evils and the persons responsible for this mess are held accountable.

[fonoi]

I have no problem as long as it enough to cover the costs, no "padding" on the fee.

[antowan]

Everybody is already cross subsidizing everybody else nationally... Why this is an issue now is beyond me! Toll is only acceptable on transit routes between provinces IMO. City to city transport tolls, especially in the heart of our economy is unacceptable. Joburg and Pretoria technically now form one big super city. It is extremely intertwined and a glance at peak hour traffic between these two cities will prove it! The toll is a k*k idea!

[Rands]

A sugestion : split the fee. Some from an increased fuel levy and some from the actual toll. The e-tag max fee could be R100 per month and the fuel levy could increase by say 10c. That way the actual users pay more than the non-gautengers. Also, the max price for the e-tags could be linked to the value of your vechicle. BMW M5 pays say R300 per month and Tata pays say R100. Also taxis are not exempt. They pay a reduced fee but everyone pays. Just some ideas for. DiScussion.

[Billy]

If the fuel levy is increased to cover the toll charge, can I use my petrol lawnmower on the new roads. If I can't it is unfair to myself and all other petrol mower owners.

Maybe a blockade of the roads by irate mower owners.

Also the cost of garden services will go up to compensate for the increased levy.

[Jola]

Tough ! Your current fuel levy is used (presently wasted !) on, amongst others, education in the Eastern Cape. You want to complain about that too ?

[Billy]

But what is being proposed here is an extra levy specifically to pay for the toll roads.

Roads that are not used by a large section of the public.

[Jola]

I pay taxes for security but still have to provide my own security (ADT), I pay taxes for education, but still have to pay for education, I pay taxes for medical, but still have to pay for my own medical aid.

In a (rapidly becoming) socialist country that is just how it works.

The "User pays" concept is just a pipe-dream in this country !

[Sly21C]

Interesting that almost everyone is against e-tolling but not everyone is in favor of a fuel levy being the alternative funding mechanism.

If the fuel levy is increased to cover the toll charge, can I use my petrol lawnmower on the new roads. If I can't it is unfair to myself and all other petrol mower owners.

Maybe a blockade of the roads by irate mower owners.

Also the cost of garden services will go up to compensate for the increased levy.

So what's your alternative to the e-tolling system and the fuel levy?

[MickeyD]

Tough ! Your current fuel levy is used (presently wasted !) on, amongst others, education in the Eastern Cape. You want to complain about that too ?

Firstly guarantee me that not a cent of any additional fuel levy will be leaving our shores (into an Austrian bank account)....

[czc]

One fly in the ointment... in 5-10 years time when alternative fuels become more readily avaliable, the Levy will leave the Govt out of pocket. A electric car wont get anything charged with a levy.

http://www.sapia.co.za/industry-over...-industry.html

By that time Government would have started taxing them.