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Thread: Would it be acceptable to non-Gauteng people if levies are used to pay SANRAL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyD View Post
    Firstly guarantee me that not a cent of any additional fuel levy will be leaving our shores (into an Austrian bank account)....
    Pretty good chance that the fuel levy monies won't be leaving to go offshore, that system is established and safe.

    The same can't be said for e-toll monies, a large percentage of that will certainly go offshore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jola View Post
    Pretty good chance that the fuel levy monies won't be leaving to go offshore, that system is established and safe.

    The same can't be said for e-toll monies, a large percentage of that will certainly go offshore.
    One of the alternatives to the e-toll levies is to increase the fuel levy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyD View Post
    One of the alternatives to the e-toll levies is to increase the fuel levy.
    That's why the fuel levy is better. There are other reasons as well.
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    This uproar is very good it is showing the government enough is enough of ripping the consumer off.
    I have no problem with a fuel levy being slightly increased .
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    Quote Originally Posted by FNfal View Post
    I have no problem with a fuel levy being slightly increased .
    +1

    The gantries should be dismantled and removed.

    They can be used later when new toll roads are built elsewhere.

    Government will just have to settle with the Austrians. OTOH, if bribery and corruption can be proved they should be sent packing with no compensation.
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    I think that the Free State should pay for etolling for the whole country.

    While at it they can pay for VAT and Income Tax as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    If the fuel levy is increased to cover the toll charge, can I use my petrol lawnmower on the new roads. If I can't it is unfair to myself and all other petrol mower owners.

    Maybe a blockade of the roads by irate mower owners.

    Also the cost of garden services will go up to compensate for the increased levy.
    Buy an electric mower. They are less maintenance anyway.

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    Or perhaps government should pay for the road infrastructure with the taxes they already collect from us tax payers? Is that not the whole point of taxation?

    Tax shortfall you say? If the ANC cadres weren't stealing so much, we wouldn't be in this mess. And now Joe public is expected to make up the difference. Its rubbish!

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    I think we should go the Belgian route. They went without a government for 541 days, and by all accounts things worked brilliantly there. There was still tax, social services still existed, but without a government there was no corruption. No changing things for changes sake, no stupid laws were passed. I really think most countries could really do with a bit of the Belgian way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jola View Post
    +1

    The gantries should be dismantled and removed.

    They can be used later when new toll roads are built elsewhere.

    Government will just have to settle with the Austrians. OTOH, if bribery and corruption can be proved they should be sent packing with no compensation.
    I think they'll most likely be used as average speed cameras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantanamo View Post
    I think we should go the Belgian route. They went without a government for 541 days, and by all accounts things worked brilliantly there. There was still tax, social services still existed, but without a government there was no corruption. No changing things for changes sake, no stupid laws were passed. I really think most countries could really do with a bit of the Belgian way.
    most governments exist just to justify their existences .... I am all for down scaling the gov to the bare essentials .. i.e. basic services ... the whole point of the gov in the first place !!
    so I am all for the Belgian way !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shogun View Post
    +1 to fuel levi... but that should already be paying for it. no need for an increase.

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    Gauteng pays the most taxes by far... Thus non-gautengers are being subsidised by Gautengers. Thus you shouldn't complain.
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    According to stats sa 10 000 people move to Gauteng every month, so it's only a matter of time until we all reap the benefits of the fuel levies. Just saying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by reactor_sa View Post
    According to stats sa 10 000 people move to Gauteng every month, so it's only a matter of time until we all reap the benefits of the fuel levies. Just saying...
    +1

    A lot of people come to Gauteng from 8 other provinces for job opportunities. Once they are employed and have an income, some of the money is used to support their families living in other provinces. So those families benefit from the improved freeways.
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