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    Bruce Quick, attorney for the first American arrested using an unmanned drone says his client was subject to "guerrilla-like police tactics."

    Quick tells U.S. News that Lakota, N.D., resident Rodney Brossart should not have been arrested and that authorities had no legal right to use the drone to aid in his capture.

    "The whole thing is full of constitutional violations," Quick told U.S. News. "The drone use is a secondary concern."

    Brossart was in a dispute with authorities over the ownership of six cows that had meandered onto his land. The Grand Forks SWAT team borrowed a Predator drone from the Department of Homeland security to make sure it was safe to arrest Brossart, authorities told the paper.

    Douglas Manbeck, who is representing the state of North Dakota, told UPI that the SWAT team used the drone only after warrants were issued.

    "I know it's a touchy subject for anyone to feel that drones are in the air watching them, but I don't think there was any misuse in this case," Manbeck told UPI.

    Unmanned drones have been used for years by the US Military in foreign countries including Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen. They're also used for surveillance on the border between Mexico and the US. But Americans can expect drones to pop up soon in several American cities.

    From Salon: With Congress requiring the Federal Aviation Administration to simplify and expedite drone applications from U.S. police departments by May 15, industry and watchdog groups agree: It won’t be long before cops and first responders put them into action.

    Salon also notes that the drones can be easily armed with tear gas canisters or tasers "for remote crowd control."

    And for those who think drones are just a more high-tech version of police helicopters, Salon columnist Glenn Greenwald, who has extensively covered the dangers of domestic and foreign use of drones, says think again: The fact is that drones vest vast new powers that police helicopters and existing weapons do not vest: and that’s true not just for weaponization but for surveillance. Drones enable a Surveillance State unlike anything we’ve seen. Because small drones are so much cheaper than police helicopters, many more of them can be deployed at once, ensuring far greater surveillance over a much larger area. Their small size and stealth capability means they can hover without any detection, and they can remain in the air for far longer than police helicopters.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1477549.html

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    Anything to get rid of crime is a plus in my book

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    Quote Originally Posted by qriffin View Post
    Anything to get rid of crime is a plus in my book
    You would love living in a police state then.
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    I have no problems with drone use for police and military usage. Wish we had a bunch of the watching our rhino to catch poachers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by copacetic View Post
    You would love living in a police state then.
    It's not like the drone was constantly surveying the perp, it was only called in for surveillance after a warrant was issued, no different to two cops on a stake out with a big box of donuts. If you can use technology in the apprehension of people I have no issue with it.
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    can use a few of them in SA...
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    Quote Originally Posted by copacetic View Post
    You would love living in a police state then.
    Anywhere anytime as long as it's free from crime

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    Quote Originally Posted by qriffin View Post
    Anywhere anytime as long as it's free from crime
    Apartheid South Africa. Germany under Hitler (pre-War). Certain Middle-Eastern countries (the one's where they chop off hands for stealing, or stoned to death for adultery).

    I doubt you would find a police state to your tastes.


    Unmanned drones have been used for years by the US Military in foreign countries including Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen. They're also used for surveillance on the border between Mexico and the US. But Americans can expect drones to pop up soon in several American cities.
    Can you say warone Or have Al Qaeda set up base in America now, madness.

    From Salon: With Congress requiring the Federal Aviation Administration to simplify and expedite drone applications from U.S. police departments by May 15, industry and watchdog groups agree: It won’t be long before cops and first responders put them into action.

    Salon also notes that the drones can be easily armed with tear gas canisters or tasers "for remote crowd control."
    I'm pretty sure armed drones of any kind are unconstitutional in America. Oh yeah but according the former piece of $hit US President, George W Bush it's worthless anyway:

    "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it's just a ***damned piece of paper!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by qriffin View Post
    Anything to get rid of crime is a plus in my book
    "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." - Benjamin Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponder View Post
    It's not like the drone was constantly surveying the perp, it was only called in for surveillance after a warrant was issued, no different to two cops on a stake out with a big box of donuts. If you can use technology in the apprehension of people I have no issue with it.
    I don't trust America to not abuse this technology, as far as I can throw them.

    Give an inch and they will take the proverbial mile.

    I am not saying it should not be used, but it needs to be, erm, closely monitored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qriffin View Post
    Anywhere anytime as long as it's free from crime
    You'll be wanting to avoid America then.
    Behind every dark cloud lies the sun, waiting to boil you alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WPD View Post
    "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." - Benjamin Franklin
    Love that quote.

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    Much cheaper and more stealth than heli's. Way to go USA, catch em crooks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WPD View Post
    "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." - Benjamin Franklin
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    Love that quote.
    Lovely! Thanks for sharing.

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    Unusual for America to not kill its own citizens with a drone... wtf
    Last edited by noswal; 05-05-2012 at 12:08 AM.
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