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    Quote Originally Posted by WilD_CaT View Post
    A Eugenicist is someone who believes a certain race has "superior" genes. Not a racist.
    No the theory of eugenics in it self has nothing at all to do with race or any premise that one person could be considered morally superior to any other. Eugenics simply means to be 'born well', this is the direct translation. to be born healthy and in the best condition possible. Eugenics is the act of making this happen, wishing your child good ('Eu') genes, or that we should not allow bad genes in apposition to not taking genetics into consideration. Any other ideology merely lends part of it's causation to this premis, eugenics does not necessarily refer to nazism, in fact the nazis actually wanted non-germans to have weaker genes, or to create sub races! The people foremost on earth to conduct eugenic practices are the Jews and secondly many asian ations such as china, taiwan, singapore, and no body is getting hurt in this process either. the germans only performed eugenics on their own r'ace', not on that of any other

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    Quote Originally Posted by phenom View Post
    No the theory of eugenics in it self has nothing at all to do with race or any premise that one person could be considered morally superior to any other.
    You are misunderstanding my point.

    Quote Originally Posted by phenom View Post
    Eugenics simply means to be 'born well', this is the direct translation. to be born healthy and in the best condition possible. Eugenics is the act of making this happen, wishing your child good ('Eu') genes, or that we should not allow bad genes in apposition to not taking genetics into consideration. Any other ideology merely lends part of it's causation to this premis, eugenics does not necessarily refer to nazism, in fact the nazis actually wanted non-germans to have weaker genes, or to create sub races! The people foremost on earth to conduct eugenic practices are the Jews and secondly many asian ations such as china, taiwan, singapore, and no body is getting hurt in this process either. the germans only performed eugenics on their own r'ace', not on that of any other
    Nice try, first off there is no such thing as an objectively "correct" definition for any word, even finding the root of a word doesn't do that. A word can mean something totally different today than it originally meant. What matters is whether or not the understanding of a word allows effective communication.


    So I don't care which definition of the word you choose and technically trying to correct me on a definition is as pointless as telling someone the best colour is not blue but red. (There is no objectively "best" colour!)

    I simply wanted to point out that "race" as in "colour" should not be confused with "race" as in genes in general. The OP was not clear whether it was talking about genetic differences or "racism" in the South African context, which means "colour".

    I also wanted to demonstrate that some ideas or associations with eugenics are "evil", e.g. Nazism and some are not. Obviously there are genes that people may prefer. I also wanted people to acknowledge that allowing people choice in genes allows them to discriminate based on colour as well.

    Most people here incorrectly believe the right not to be discriminated against is a legitimate right and don't understand the implications of that (The belief that you are allowed to restrict other peoples choices/freedoms to benefit yourself because you don't like their rationale).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Techne View Post
    How would you define racism?

    1. The view that there are genetic or cultural differences between racial groups and that these differences have behavioral consequences.

    2. The feeling of affinity for those of one's own racial and ethnic background.

    3. The view that it is morally justifiable to put the interests of one's own race or ethnic group above those of another in situations of conflict or limited resources. This is to be understood as the analog of the view that it it morally justifiable to put the interests of oneself and one's own family, friends, and neighbors above the interests of strangers in a situation of conflict or limited resources.

    4. The view that the genetic and cultural differences between races or ethnic groups justifies genocide or slavery or the denial of political rights.

    I have a different take on racism. It has nothing to do with apparent conflicts between races according to differences, or another race perceiving itself as better, than another. It is the preservation or betterment of your own race against other racial influence. Big difference.

    The concept of race is very real. It's biological.
    A forgotten subject, called Ethnology addressed race as biological, with all the differences etc.

    Race is not a social construct. It's a biological fact.

    So, in my view racism is very natural, because you are looking after your own. Nothing wrong with that. If you want to preserve your own, nothing wrong with that.

    However, the word racism has been taken apart so badly, that it ignites fear and loathing, which in it's practical application is anything but.

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    Racism is caused by a fear of other races due to a massive inferiority complex and lack of confidence.

    The more extreme the racism in the individual, the more pathetic they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippy View Post
    Racism is caused by a fear of other races due to a massive inferiority complex and lack of confidence.

    The more extreme the racism in the individual, the more pathetic they are.
    Very emotive statements zippy. Racism is innate and it does not mean you hate others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apache View Post
    Very emotive statements zippy. Racism is innate and it does not mean you hate others.
    Correct. you don't have to hate someone to love your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apache View Post
    Very emotive statements zippy. Racism is innate and it does not mean you hate others.
    Wait you actually believed the sensationalist title of that article you posted?

    ROFL oh this is priceless.
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