And for the record, I think ID is incompatible with theism. I don't support ID, I don't think it is science and I think it is bad philosophy.
I accept common descent, I think the evidence for it pretty good and I see no reason to object to it. It does not pose any problem for theism or for Abrahamic religions’ views about Adam etc. I see no reason to argue against evolution (don't confuse evolution with Darwinism) from a scientific or philosophical point of view. The same applies to abiogenesis, the Big Bang theory and quantum physics.
Can we expect you to contribute towards the discussion about eipgenetics and how it is related to evolution? Please. Thanks .
Someone comes to you and says pigs are dirty. You disagree. They say they'll prove it to you and gets a bucket of mud.
I don't mind if people want to question evolution, hopefully they'll get a better understanding of it.
And I'm all for the progression of the concept, it's already progressed so much since the 1800s.
I have a problem with creationism or anything part of creation being mentioned in Natural Science, things like Intelligent Design and Irreducible Complexity belong in PD, are not science, or ever will be.
Every single thread about evolution in NS at some stage becomes about philosophy and peoples insecurities.
If you think Creationism / ID / IC is science, you really don't know science.
People don't know that Evolution has more evidence to back it up than any other theory? Other scientific theories and disciplines even fit perfectly and correlate 100% to The ToE.
You have more chance debunking Gravity, maybe get started on that one, for practice for when you start debunking the ToE.
Actually, why don't people have problems with other scientific theories?
Surely there are a bunch of people trying to "Teach the Controversy" instead of geography or physics?
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Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing.
Oh so the fight is here.... *gears up with NERD armaments of journal articles and internet satire <with background ateam music* ..... okay no i've seen the light of religion its so true:
check it out
It's like saying imagine if creationism is actually proved in court to be science and the entire scientific community agrees.
That's just silly, so is your example.
It's like saying what if astrology was proved in court to be science and was taught instead of astronomy and the scientific community agrees.
You have more chance of Jesus coming back and finding out that the http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order...mple#section_3nights templar is the 1 true religion, the rest of you spend eternity in hell, for arguments sake..
What if we find jacks beans to his bean stalk, hypothetically, for arguments sake, what then?
Why would you want to argue such *** in Natural Science?
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I have no sides when it comes to knowledge. Im not afraid to to look, theorise and admit im wrong. So lets do this instead of the religious monkeys here go "na uh" for everything, lets clear the slate.
Please enlighten me FULLY from your strongest evidence, and ideals. Preferably One point at a time so we can discuss it. Im asking now, show me your light.
And stick to ancient scripture that's lost in translation and can be interpreted any way they like, seems concerning and dangerous.
I point you to people who deny all animal instinct and kill their offspring and blame their deity, this for a species is just fantastically unorthodox. (Yes, you're either an animal or a plant, take your pick.)
Sorry no human cell
You are a species.
You are an animal.
You are a mammal.
You are a tetrapod.
You are a Primate.
Your species has taken 3.5 billion years to develop into something that seems divine, I know.
But I don't think everyone can quite comprehend 3.5 billion years.
I dare you to count the 0's
You have behaviors and organs that can only be explained by your species being very different in it's course of development.
Goose bumps, getting frights are examples of vestigial behaviors that can only be explained the following way: Your species, long long ago, had enough hair on it's body that when it got "Goose bumps" http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goose_bumps it was able to keep warm and even change appearance to look more intimidation which is why you get goose bumps when you think there is a ghost behind you, if you appear bigger, the ghost will more than likely run or float away.
Coccyx, Appendix (of no use to humans, has often been fatal for our species if it gets infected), the muscles that move your ears up and down (not everyone has this, it has largely been phased out) Wisdom teeth (again some people dont grow wisdom teeth anymore, only my top 2 came out, it has been known to be fatal in our species if wisdom teeth impacted and got infected)
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