Okay lets play that game...
Däniken was convicted of several financial crimes, including fraud, shortly after publication of his first book. He later became a co-founder of the Archaeology, Astronautics and SETI Research Association (AAS RA), and designed the theme park Mystery Park in Interlaken, Switzerland, that first opened on 23 May 2003.
I and the voice inside my head(vis a vis my conscience) both agree that Jehovas partenalistic rulership is better than Satans liberal anarchy.
No results is not negative results however.
And it's laughable that anyone thinks they're in the same league as ID hogwash that never was or will be a friend of science.
We are proof that a civilisation can evolve and become intelligent, by that conclusion and the amount of stars planets and solar systems in the universe(s), it is probable that there is other intelligent life out there.
At least SETI isn't pissing all over biology while it looks for life on other planets. Harvard and Berkely universities have SETI centers, SETI Institute has helped NASA on space missions and ID is being compared to SETI? what a joke. Shows you how desperate the proponents are to have some sort of legitimacy.
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From wiki :
We can continue with Techne's warped view of thinking, is string theory now not Science because it also is yet to reach its primary goal. I can list 100s of other things that haven't reached their goal but that doesn't mean its not Science. Stupid argument is stupid.Results
To date, the project has not confirmed the detection of any ETI signals (see extraterrestrial intelligence). However, it has identified several candidate targets (sky positions), where the spike in intensity is not easily explained as noisespots, for further analysis. The most significant candidate signal to date was announced on September 1, 2004, named Radio source SHGb02+14a.
While the project has not reached the stated primary goal of finding extraterrestrial intelligence, it has proved to the scientific community that distributed computing projects using Internet-connected computers can succeed as a viable analysis tool, and even beat the largest supercomputers.
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ID goes way beyond that and tries to point to a 'creator' that didn't only create some biological things that we could maybe reproduce (and use as a standard), but created the entire universe, including the natural laws that govern it. I'm not sure how you can't see the difference.
"Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing-glove..."
ID is the same as creationism, just a different name.
SETI look for radiowaves that may have an intelligent source.
ID is looking for codes (e.g. genetic code or fine tuned constants) or machines that may have an intelligent source.
So both have some sort of standard.
Also, as explained earlier, ID cannot even IN PRINCIPLE get you to theism. So it cannot get you to something that produced the laws of physics (Again, whatever they are or mean) or created the universe.
And, like ID, SETI has no empirical method to confirm whether something is the result of intelligence without evidence of the intelligent source itself. And for this reason, SETI, like ID, is most likely not an empirical science that can empirically confirm its hypothesis. At best you may argue it is some sort of theoretical science, not an empirical science.
You can't trust a meta-ethical moral relativist since such a person can abuse reason to justify any act.
ID by principle cannot get you to theism?
Intelligent design (ID) is a form of creationism promulgated by the Discovery Institute. The Institute defines it as the proposition that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection."  It is a contemporary adaptation of the traditional teleological argument for the existence of God, presented by its advocates as "an evidence-based scientific theory about life's origins" rather than "a religious-based idea".  The leading proponents of intelligent design are associated with the Discovery Institute, a politically conservative think tank, [n 1] and believe the designer to be the Christian deity. [n 2]
and what is this intelligence they are refering to?