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    Quote Originally Posted by dualmeister
    Stab him in the neck with a pencil. I find this usually makes them less chatty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonc View Post
    If theres anyone who has never "burned" a CD or software, let him raise his hand
    I like that hahahaha... case closed! lol

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    software and music are two different issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tns View Post
    software and music are two different issues
    Both creators need to be paid for their efforts. How are they different?
    Quote Originally Posted by dualmeister
    Stab him in the neck with a pencil. I find this usually makes them less chatty.

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    Copyrights, patents and trademarks are all broken, perverted from their intended purpose and they've become that way, will stay that way, because powerful, wealthy vested interests want it that way.

    It remains and will always remain ludicrous to compare physical goods to things that are not physical. Someone copying a piece of music, a movie or some software can never be sensibly compared to someone taking a physical good.

    But if we are going to pretend they're the same then products like software must come with exactly the same rights and guarantees as physical goods. It must perform or you get a refund. You must be able to simply change your mind and return it for a refund, even if it has been opened. That's where the problem lies. The promoters of this nonsense want all the benefits of pretending these things are physical goods, plus additional special benefits and none of the consumer benefits that go with physical goods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verrayne View Post
    I wonder how many of the piracy advocates work in IT.

    I'd like to see their viewpoint when the boss walks in one day and says:

    "Listen up guys, there are 2 million people using our software, yet only 10 have paid for it. So because of that, you are all fired with no benefits and by the way you won't be getting paid this month. cheers."
    If the product's not selling, then that is what would happen. That would include the case where they're buying a competitor's product instead. Is the competitor now a thief too? How many examples are there of companies going out of business because everyone used, but didn't buy their product? We have to always ask whether they would really have bought anyway. There's obviously something seriously wrong if you really have a situation where essentially 100% of your potential customers won't pay for your product. I've known people to use a lower quality, but easier to copy product, perhaps given away free, over a better, but harder to copy one. If they had to pay they'd buy the better one, so now is the producer putting out the easy to copy or free product contributing to theft from the better company?

    If it's theft to watch a movie without paying for it, then inviting friends over to watch something you bought is also theft because they've failed to pay. So is lending and borrowing. And of course buying pre-owned.

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    Thank god copyright laws were invented!! The world must have been so boring with writers, painters, musicians and filmmakers sitting around unwilling to create anything cus noone had invented copyright laws yet!
    As soon as copyright laws were invented all those creative types started making interesting stuff - just so they could earn **** loads of money!!!
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