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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmanPot View Post
    Am I wrong in finding this a bit strange.
    Yes you are. I've given up trying to find work again....
    so I've pulled my socks up and started my own business concern. Does this sound like "giving up" to you? Don't try to make this something it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekstasis View Post
    Not my quote dude
    Where did your post go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmanPot View Post
    It certainly does. 95%.
    Here is some facts, no thumb sucking.


    Since 2002, on the whole South African professionals' wages have escalated by 312.1% in foreign currency terms, an increase of 19.4% per annum. Consequently many South African professionals enjoy living standards above those of their peers, at the expense of a shortage of these skills for the country as a whole. The result is that tens of thousands of people with suitable capabilities who are willing to work in the professions are artificially excluded from doing so, and are forced to enter second-choice careers earning less than their aptitude and qualifications justify.

    These individuals seek the possibility of training and/or working abroad, and in this way professional bodies are unwittingly responsible for the emigration of many high-skilled and talented young people. The Department of Home Affairs no longer compiles proper statistics on emigration, so it is difficult to know how substantial this effect is.

    Affirmative action has exceedingly poor consequences for the desire to work in South Africa. As indicated in the table, highly qualified whites are substantially less likely than blacks to find a job within 12 months of initiating a job search. For job-seekers with a tertiary qualification, blacks are 34% more likely to find work than whites.

    This has, no doubt, contributed to the substantially higher percentage of whites operating their own businesses: whites are nearly three times more likely than blacks to establish their own businesses. To the extent that business owners earn more than employees over their lifetimes, affirmative action may have had the unintended consequence of raising white incomes relative to blacks.

    Indeed, business owners' share of national income has increased from 39.9% in 1995 to 47.2% in 2011, while employees' share has correspondingly declined. At the same time, affirmative action, by raising the probability that black graduates find work, has artificially raised the demand for tertiary education among blacks. Yet the university system has failed to produce graduates in business-oriented fields: there are currently nearly 600,000 unemployed university graduates in South Africa, mostly in the arts, humanities and social sciences, whereas the private sector has more than 800,000 vacancies in management, engineering, law, finance, accounting and medicine.

    typical strategy is to use the "bell curve" to adjust pass rates each year, thus ensuring that the entry standard varies from year to year while the number of entrants is tightly controlled. By contrast fields such as physics, finance, engineering, economics and management do not have professional bodies. Professional bodies restrict entry, ostensibly, to maintain standards, but in fact they are a thinly veiled guise to maintain their respective professional monopolies.

    For example, South Africa has 0.7 physicians per 1,000 population (fewer than Paraguay and Libya), yet hundreds of students achieving six or seven distinctions in Grade 12 are routinely turned away from medical schools every year. Despite the national shortage of doctors, South African medical schools in total admit just 9,000 MBChB students today, compared to 8,500 ten years ago, an increase of less than 1% per annum.
    Government handouts have had a marked negative effect on the desire to work. Grants in South Africa amount to approximately R1,150 per month (child support grants amount to R260 per child per month), and the means-tested upper annual income threshold varies from R31,000 per person (in the case of child support) to R752,400 per person (in the case of older persons). 10.2 million South Africans - approximately 1 in 5 - receive grants of one form or another, amounting to 14.9 million grants or 1.5 grants per recipient, yielding average transfers of R9,539 per beneficiary per annum.

    Statistics SA's Quarterly Labour Force Survey provides startling confirmation of these effects. As indicated in the table, 43.3% of unemployed people are willing to accept a job, if offered, when they are supported by their own savings, whereas 11.1% of people will accept a job if they are supported by social grants and welfare. Unemployed people are also more likely to remain out of work if they are supported by social grants and welfare: the average duration of unemployment is 16 months for people who do not receive grants, compared to 21 months for people who do.
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    BEE is Apartheid in window dressing. It brings about a reverse divide between black and white. Tables are just turning - we've had our turn, now they have their turn. There's NO fairness in BEE vacancies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekstasis View Post
    Yes you are. I've given up trying to find work again....
    so I've pulled my socks up and started my own business concern. Does this sound like "giving up" to you? Don't try to make this something it isn't.
    Have you faced any challenges in setting it up relating to BEE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmanPot View Post
    Where did your post go?
    I did not post this....think you should go sleep Postman, you're getting all tangled up

    Apartheid: You can't live with us as you're not wanted around us. You can't sleep with us as you're ungodly. You can't use our toilets as you're dirty. You can't have an equal education because you're stupid. You can't vote because you can't be trusted to know what's best for you. You can't have freedom of speech because what you have to say is not worth saying. You can't work in certain jobs because... Er... Well... We prefer you doing the hard graft for low wages etc.

    AA/BEE: You can absolutely hire whoever you want. But because you whites have all the money, education and power (much of it for historical reasons) and show no willingness to involve you us in your workplace because of the propaganda they taught you about us, here's an incentive to hire black people too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmanPot View Post
    Have you faced any challenges in setting it up relating to BEE?
    Explain

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    Quote Originally Posted by wily me View Post
    Here is some facts, no thumb sucking.



    http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politic...tingweb+detail
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_S...n#Unemployment
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_S...e_of_workforce

    Unemployment
    Province (strict) White unemployment rate
    Eastern Cape[35] 4.5%
    Free State
    Gauteng[36] 8.7%
    KwaZulu-Natal[37] 8.0%
    Limpopo[38] 8.0%
    Mpumalanga[37] 7.5%
    North West
    Northern Cape[39] 4.5%
    Western Cape 2.0%
    Total
    Percentage of workforce
    Province Whites % of the workforce Whites % of population
    Eastern Cape[35] 10% 4%
    Free State
    Gauteng[40] 25% 18%
    KwaZulu-Natal[37] 11% 6%
    Limpopo[38] 5% 2%
    Mpumalanga
    North West
    Northern Cape[39] 19% 12%
    Western Cape[41] 22% 18%
    That's a lot of employment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekstasis View Post
    I did not post this....think you should go sleep Postman, you're getting all tangled up
    I think you should go to sleep. I am quite a night owl and still going strong! If you posted it, it would have started with 'Originally Posted by Ekstasis'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekstasis View Post
    BEE is Apartheid in window dressing.
    It's absolutely not.

    Apartheid: You can't live with us as you're not wanted around us. You can't sleep with us as you're ungodly. You can't use our toilets as you're dirty. You can't have an equal education because you're stupid. You can't vote because you can't be trusted to know what's best for you. You can't have freedom of speech because what you have to say is not worth saying. You can't work in certain jobs because... Er... Well... We prefer you doing the hard graft for low wages etc.

    AA/BEE: You can absolutely hire whoever you want. But because you whites have all the money, education and power (much of it for historical reasons) and show no willingness to involve you us in your workplace because of the propaganda they taught you about us, here's an incentive to hire black people too.
    The only divide you understand is that between white and black racists on internet forums/news sites. Blacks and whites are more united than ever. And it's because of BEE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmanPot View Post
    I think you should go to sleep. I am quite a night owl and still going strong! If you posted it, it would have started with 'Originally Posted by Ekstasis'.
    Which it didn't, so why are you claiming I said this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekstasis View Post
    Which it didn't, so why are you claiming I said this?
    Excuse me? Where did I claim you said it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wily me View Post
    She's sitting next to me and laugh at your posts FYI, she says you must get a real life, that post count of yours is proof that you have nothing else to do.
    Lets combine all your previous accounts man, you probably have a higher post count.
    You got banned for a reason, you spew nothing but hate and its miracle you are still going strong. But you probably already made a few extra accounts for when that fateful day comes.
    If we were made from dirt, why is there still dirt?

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    think I must go sleep. The postman makes me tiredz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekstasis View Post
    think I must go sleep. The postman makes me tiredz!
    You make yourself tired.
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