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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldex View Post
    Doubt you can prove that, not sure how many indians there are in Durban, but theres alot! Also Cape Town has a lot of muslims.
    Erm... South Africa does a census and I am just basing my figures on the last census. You over estimate your minority and underestimate mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghoti View Post
    Turns out I was 100% right. Was listening to the hearings this morning and this is totally being spearheaded by muslims. A very very tiny minority.
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    In Durban it's a Hindu advocacy group that are wanting Diwali etc to be recognised. Fair enough I think.
    which is it? ,muslim group or hindi group
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    christianity comes in at 79%
    What is the definition of this group ?

    It includes catholics, protestants, a multitude of different 'christian' denominations - some being very loosely based on christianity, some being more a blend of western christianity and African ancestor worship.

    In addition a large % of that 79% are people who do not worship at all, view themselves as christians but in reality just find it a comfy social identity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mineer View Post
    which is it? ,muslim group or hindi group
    The meetings are being organised by the Commission for the Promotion and Protection of the Rights of Cultural, Religious and Linguistic Communities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mineer View Post
    which is it? ,muslim group or hindi group
    The group I heard bitching on SAFM were clearly some Islamic group. So unless you get Islamic Hindu`s... I dont know. Perhaps the Hindu`s are adding their voice to this, but the ones on the radio complaining were Muslims. They were talking about Eid and everything
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    Only ones not complaining are the Jews
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghoti View Post
    The group I heard bitching on SAFM were clearly some Islamic group. So unless you get Islamic Hindu`s... I dont know. Perhaps the Hindu`s are adding their voice to this, but the ones on the radio complaining were Muslims. They were talking about Eid and everything
    They're all wrong, regardless of whom wants what. There should be no place for any religious holidays in a secular country. Instead additional annual leave should be granted for religious holidays. Whoever is complaining, be it the Hindus, Muslims or Khoisan, they may not get their days recognised but hopefully it will all lead to precisely my point above.
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    just count them and add the days to my annual leave.. I can then take them when i want
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    exactly what I was going to say.

    15 days annual leave plus 12 days public holidays = 27 leave days to do what I please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghoti View Post
    The group I heard bitching on SAFM were clearly some Islamic group. So unless you get Islamic Hindu`s... I dont know. Perhaps the Hindu`s are adding their voice to this, but the ones on the radio complaining were Muslims. They were talking about Eid and everything
    there were 5 diferent groups
    http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/news/...ring-1.1324865

    Five religious groups made recommendations on public holidays to the Commission for the Promotion and Protection of the Rights of Cultural, Religious and Linguistic Communities in Durban on Thursday.

    The public hearing at the Durban City Hall was attended by more than 100 people.

    Not all the groups wanted their religious holidays to be made official. Some just wanted the government, their employers and the education department to recognise the days.

    The Hindu community wanted Diwali to be made an official public holiday.

    SA Hindu Maha Sabha president Ashwin Trikamjee said the essence of Diwali was universal as it was the festival of light.

    “There are a few impediments we suffer from because of ignorance. Employers insist that Hindus should work on Diwali or take a pay cut,” he said.

    “We are asking all South Africans to participate in this important event as we equally join you when you are having your religious holidays.”

    Muslim community representative Suleman Dangor said it was not practical to ask the government to make Eid and Ramadan official public holidays, but it was important that the days be recognised.

    “Employers must be sensitive in the workplace and the schools should ensure that no examinations take place,” Dangor said.

    The Nazareth Baptist Church, popularly known as the Shembe church, which has more than seven million members, said it had two days it wanted the government to recognise. These were March 10, the day its founding leader Isaiah Shembe arrived in KwaZulu-Natal, and May 2, the day he died.

    Spokesman Nkululeko Mthethwa said the church wanted members to be allowed to observe these days.

    Christians wanted the birth of Jesus Christ, which falls on December 25, and Good Friday, to remain in the calendar.

    African Christian Democratic party deputy president Wayne Thring said the group wanted Ascension Day to be reintroduced as a public holiday. It was taken off the calendar without any consultation, he contended.

    The Rastafarian community had five religious days, and said it wanted the government to make at least two of these holidays official. - Sapa
    Muslim community representative Suleman Dangor said it was not practical to ask the government to make Eid and Ramadan official public holidays, but it was important that the days be recognised.
    Yep this sounds very bitchy!
    Im sure i mentioned it earlier in the thread its not practical for us muslims to have the days as public holidays

    also not mentioned in the Article was Wendy khan from the SA Jewish board she also said the just wanted recognition not public holidays
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    Quote Originally Posted by isie View Post
    there were 5 diferent groups
    http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/news/...ring-1.1324865




    Yep this sounds very bitchy!
    Im sure i mentioned it earlier in the thread its not practical for us muslims to have the days as public holidays

    also not mentioned in the Article was Wendy khan from the SA Jewish board she also said the just wanted recognition not public holidays
    Agreed

    Imagine the muslims hardly know which day is the official religious holiday because of the moon, imagine government following it, it will be chaos in SA lol!

    Its the hindhu people complaining because diwali falls in during exams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldex View Post
    Agreed

    Imagine the muslims hardly know which day is the official religious holiday because of the moon, imagine government following it, it will be chaos in SA lol!

    Its the hindhu people complaining because diwali falls in during exams.
    The government does follow the moon - where do you think the word 'lunatic' comes from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albereth View Post
    The government does follow the moon - where do you think the word 'lunatic' comes from?
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldex View Post
    Agreed

    Imagine the muslims hardly know which day is the official religious holiday because of the moon, imagine government following it, it will be chaos in SA lol!

    Its the hindhu people complaining because diwali falls in during exams.
    without the qoutes it looks like im complaining about this
    but yes we would have to allocate 3 days leeway a year for each Eid just not productive 6 days waste.
    and Diwali is around november and always ends up with some exam so can understand. i had to write an exam during eid once it realy ruins your day
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