Is suicide really never the answer?

[Ekstasis]

Well this is a general feeling in humanity that ending ones life is never the solution to problems.

Isn't the idea of living to have happy and fulfilling life? Or at least strive towards it? Yet some ppl are so smothered by their situations and problems that they never get there. Waking up in the morning is a shock to the system for some.

Therapy and counseling does not always cure or help at all. Every day is an unhappy, unfulfilled struggle to cope and/or survive. Yes, certainly you get ppl who cope, get cured, get problems fixed..but there are those who never will or can't. What are you then living for? What is the point then?

[samr1wp]

yes ..why waste your life

live so that you can die in peace one day

and if you thinking of suicide can i get rugby tickets please before you go

[Chevron]

As long as people are not trying to kill to me, they can do whatever they want with their own lives.

I don't get why suicide gets some people so upset. I think they just selfish because they don't want to let go.

[cerebus]

Things would have to be quite extreme that somebody with an objective view couldn't conceive of a better alternative than suicide. And with people in depressive or highly stressed states, the tendency is to magnify the impossibility of getting through it by any means other than the most extreme. Quite often those people can actually be helped to get through whatever they think at that moment to be an insurmountable situation. So from a counselling humanistic perspective, yes it is best to say that suicide is never the answer - because if somebody can be prevented from it by receiving help then they should be, whereas if somebody cannot be helped, then no counselling on earth will actually stop them.

[Ekstasis]

Things would have to be quite extreme that somebody with an objective view couldn't conceive of a better alternative than suicide. And with people in depressive or highly stressed states, the tendency is to magnify the impossibility of getting through it by any means other than the most extreme. Quite often those people can actually be helped to get through whatever they think at that moment to be an insurmountable situation. So from a counselling humanistic perspective, yes it is best to say that suicide is never the answer - because if somebody can be prevented from it by receiving help then they should be, whereas if somebody cannot be helped, then no counselling on earth will actually stop them.

These are the ppl I'm referring to yes. Obviously, if there's a way out the individual might still hang on. This however depends entirely on the nature of the problem. I think certain individuals hang on because they hope there's a solution around the corner. Then they spend years of their lives in absolute misery....

[blunomore]

1. People who commit suicide, have lost all perspective on life. It may look to others as if there is an answer or a way out, but to the ones comtemplating suicide, it does not look that way.

2. It is interesting that humans are always searching for a purpose to life. It is the most pressing question and I do not know if there is an answer.

[Elimentals]

Euthanasia?

When you know you are on route to die due to some genetic or medical condition but then dont want to let people and yourself suffer. Then I can say suicide away, but then that is my personal view, the same one that would "fix" people the moment they are diagnosed with terminal medical conditions that will spread to their children.

[Geriatrix]

One cannot comprehend the suffering of another.

[Nive~k]

purpose to life is living

humans are self-aware beings (free will)

its simple.

if u fall ill u mite die same as psychological illness, if not treatable.

[noxibox]

yes ..why waste your life

live so that you can die in peace one day

Who defines wasting one's life?

If by dying in peace you mean having an easy death, then only some will get that.

[porchrat]

I agree with some of the sentiments already expressed in this thread:

If you are mentally unstable (depressed or psychotic or something) then you don't get to make decisions for yourself. You aren't permitted to sell your house when you are kookoo so why allow someone in that state to make a decision about suicide? Doesn't make sense to me.

However if you are entirely rational and are say, looking down the barrel of a terribly painful prolonged existence suffering with cancer that the doctors know they cannot stop then why bother? Then by all means end it.

[Ekstasis]

I'm not just pointing to ppl with death threatening illnesses. There's a multitude of problems/issues ppl can have that brings them down

[Charlikins101]

One cannot comprehend the suffering of another.

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My Friend from TuksRes Mans Koshuis Olienhout, Duncan Allan, committed suicide last year I still can not understand why he did it. He was a happy helpful guy and always had a smile on his face and always greeted first... when news of his death came, it was the second biggest shock of my life. I could not understand why somebody that had the world in his hands could do this. He was doing Fantastical in his degree and was about to Graduate, He did great in sports, he was a tutor for school kids, and a very social happy guy. he was Social HK at Olienhout.

Just goes to show the we can never understand what our family, friends and everybody around us is perceiving the world as, and how they really feel...

[MsDenz]

One cannot comprehend the suffering of another.

At one time I used to think that people who commit suicide were cowards. I don't think that way anymore...

Never judge people until you have walked a mile in their shoes

[BeVonk!]

Very very tough one.

I've been there about ten years ago. Couldn't face another day. Couldn't appreciate life in any way. Meds and counselling didn't help. Just wanted to end it. But then "this little voice" said I must extend life one day at a time ... just give it one more day ... every day a new decision ... and ten years later I am unbelievably happy I listened to that voice. I spent years in that desert where I felt like I was in the middle of the massive sandstorm crawling on all-fours without food or water.