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    The US has acknowledged that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was incorrect when she said that Russia was supplying the Syrian government with combat helicopters, thereby leading to a “dramatic escalation” in the conflict.

    “These are helicopters that have been out of the fight for some six months or longer. They are freshly refurbished,” Victoria Nuland, spokesperson for the US State Department, told reporters in Washington on Thursday.

    Nuland, however, was at great pains to explain why Clinton had chosen to describe the alleged sale of Russian helicopters to Syria as a “dramatic escalation”in the conflict between Syrian pro-government and oppositional forces, when the transaction merely entailed “refurbished old helicopters.”

    The spokesperson was then asked to explain what Clinton meant when she said Russia should “suspend” its military trade with Syria.

    “We’re not suggesting any breakage,” Nuland said. We are saying that “further shipments should be suspended, further relationships should be suspended, in the context of a regime that is using these weapons against its own people.”

    On Tuesday, Clinton triggered a diplomatic trembler between Moscow and Washington when she accused Russia of selling combat helicopters to Syria.

    “We are concerned about the latest information we have that there are attack helicopters on the way from Russia to Syria,” the Secretary of State said. Clinton added that if the Syrian government of Bashar al-Assad got possession of such lethal military weapons, it “will escalate the conflict quite dramatically.”

    Clinton’s comments came shortly after the State Department accused the Syrian government of using helicopters to attack opposition strongholds.

    Moscow responded heatedly to the accusations.

    Speaking in Tehran on Wednesday, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov reiterated that Russia was merely fulfilling its contractual obligations, which were made with Syria long before the outbreak of violence hit the country.

    "I already said during one of the news conferences in Moscow several days ago that we are now finishing the fulfillment of contracts that were signed and paid for a long time ago. All of (the contracts) are solely for the means of air defense," Lavrov told reporters.

    Russia supplies Syria “only with things that Syria would need in the event of an armed attack on it from without," the minister added.

    Lavrov stressed that Russia was supplying Syria exclusively with air defense systems, reiterating that nothing being delivered to Damascus could be used against demonstrators.

    The minister then compared Russia’s behavior with that of the United States, which he said is sending “special means” to countries in the region, specifically Bahrain, which is experiencing its own ‘Arab Spring.’

    "We are not supplying to Syria or anywhere else things that are used in fighting with peaceful demonstrators, in contrast to the United States, which is regularly sending such special means to countries in the region," he said. "For some reason, the Americans consider this to be in order. We are not delivering such means and are delivering only that which Syria requires in the event of an armed attack on it from outside."

    Meanwhile, as Russian President Vladimir Putin prepares to meet with his American counterpart Barack Obama on the sidelines of the meeting of the G20 in Mexico next week, diplomats are working overtime to smooth over the rough spots in the US-Russian relationship.
    I love how the people in power over in america are always accusing countries of arming this country or that country but do exactly the same thing. The US are arming bahrain who are putting down protests violently and bahrain is a dictatorship something they are suppose to be against.

    Perhaps when the US show they will not support dictators with arms then they may have a case but for now it seems the two rule policy applies. The US can supply who they like when they like but they have issues when other countries do it.

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    Syria death toll - eleven thousand one hundred and seventeen (11 117)
    Bahrain death toll - sixty (60)

    I wrote it out for you in case the numbers doesn't make sense.

    http://talkingaboutbahrain.wordpress.com/tag/death-toll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowley View Post
    Syria death toll - eleven thousand one hundred and seventeen (11 117)
    Bahrain death toll - sixty (60)

    I wrote it out for you in case the numbers doesn't make sense.

    http://talkingaboutbahrain.wordpress.com/tag/death-toll
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    Ah. She 'misspoke' ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by zippy View Post
    Killa will never allow facts to get in the way of his opinions. Complete waste of time, but nice attempt
    As long as it's muslims killing muslims it's ok in his book.
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    So wait there is a specific number of people you need to murder before you are classified bad? So the bahrain government are angels because they have only slaughtered and imprisoned a few hundred.

    Yea i suppose arm them so they can keep violently putting down protests. Makes sense i guess.

    So what is the number gents before you become really bad, 1000, 5000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killadoob View Post
    So wait there is a specific number of people you need to murder before you are classified bad? So the bahrain government are angels because they have only slaughtered and imprisoned a few hundred.

    Yea i suppose arm them so they can keep violently putting down protests. Makes sense i guess.

    So what is the number gents before you become really bad, 1000, 5000.
    Yeah, hey, let's ask the US to invade almost every country on the planet, because every government kills and imprisons some of their own people. Should the West cut off ties and institute sanctions against South Africa, as well? Our government has also killed protestors, and imprisoned people. What about Russia? They also violently put down protests, as does China.

    The problem is killa, that you say "there are no angels", but you NEVER post articles or condemn these actions by any country other than Western ones. There's always a measly one sentence response about how no government is really good, and then you continue on your anti-West tirades.
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    Killa is banging his head against the Bahrain wall again.

    Yep, let's focus on a country where less than a hundred people have been killed in protests but totally ignore a country where tens of thousands have been killed in a blood repression... makes perfect sense!... to Killadoob.

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    See there it is again gary. Support a country doing similar things on a lesser scale while you condemn a country doing things on a bigger scale. The object on the scale is same but the weight is different.

    So basically if syria had only killed 500 people it would be fine? I dunno man i somehow doubt you would be saying it's only a few hundred. In fact none of you said that in the beginning when only a few hundred had been killed by the government.

    The trouble with bahrain is they get no coverage, so when people die it barely makes news. If two people die in syria it is broadcast world wide.
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    A bet even the ANC killed more people during their 'struggle' than what died in Bahrain..

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    The anc or the old government?

    I cannot recall the protestors in bahrain actually killing anyone, nor have their been any bombings. It is a similar situation though, majority not in power. It's basically apartheid over there with the support of the west because they have a base in bahrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killadoob View Post
    The anc or the old government?

    I cannot recall the protestors in bahrain actually killing anyone, nor have their been any bombings. It is a similar situation though, majority not in power. It's basically apartheid over there with the support of the west because they have a base in bahrain.
    Do you even know what Apartheid was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garyvdh View Post
    Do you even know what Apartheid was?
    I bet if he were to be given a world map then he won't be able to point out where most of the countries that he support are.

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    For some reason I red 'China misfires on Russian helicopters'

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    I thought Clinton misfired on a Russian intern?

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