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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlikins101 View Post
    I'm going to remove myself from this thread now because people are getting a bit mental and wants me banned because I disagree with evolution...

    Anyway you keep believing in your random chance selection. I'm out, was a good discussion.
    I respect your choice to believe what you believe... God did infact give us free will..
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    One question.

    Has anybody here, who is trying to disprove evolution, given another hypothesis for the diversity of life? Something as logical as the ToV, that makes sense and can be backed up by evidence. It would be nice to know what their theories are to give us a better understanding where they are coming from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlikins101 View Post
    God did infact give us free will..
    God gave us free will with a gun to our heads saying: "If you do not use your free will and choice, which I gave you, to follow ME and what _I_ tell you, then you will be punished in Hell". That is not free will, that is blackmail. Blackmail like this scares children/people into believing. If God wanted to make free will truly meaningful, there would be no "Or else!" clause attached to the choices we make. Religion makes it very clear that the only choice is to love God, or else!
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    Cudos to peeps who gave some info that wasn't all one sided..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlikins101 View Post
    Just one more thing, did they not find the remains of Noahs ark in some mountains?
    No, they did not.
    And also, isn't there proof that mankind started in the middle east, in the Iran and Iraq area of the modern world.
    No, mankind started in Africa. Civilization (for lack of a better word) started in the middle east.
    *Without being douchy about it, can somebody who is skeptical try and answer this? I know what the narrow minded evolutionists will say "LOL youz izzz trolling w4t4 Trollolololollll"

    I don't rightly care what you believe, but whatever it is be skeptical about it.. So anyway, any answers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmanPot View Post
    God gave us free will with a gun to our heads saying: "If you do not use your free will and choice, which I gave you, to follow ME and what _I_ tell you, then you will be punished in Hell". That is not free will, that is blackmail. Blackmail like this scares children/people into believing. If God wanted to make free will truly meaningful, there would be no "Or else!" clause attached to the choices we make. Religion makes it very clear that the only choice is to love God, or else!
    Now it gets interesting you are free to choose to do right or wrong, good or bad but should you do bad which usually involves harming others than there are consequences.

    But alas non of those consequences involve hell, gehena or shoel has nothing to do with fire. Please look up translations to the above words'

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    Quote Originally Posted by buyeye View Post
    Now it gets interesting you are free to choose to do right or wrong, good or bad but should you do bad which usually involves harming others than there are consequences.

    But alas non of those consequences involve hell, gehena or shoel has nothing to do with fire. Please look up translations to the above words'
    Dude, do not do this to me when I am high!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elimentals View Post
    As someone that understands most of evolution, there is one problem I do struggle with, maybe the experts can help.

    It is well known that dumb people breed more than intelligent ones. So by theory evolution should mark intelligence as a negative factor and doing so should let it die out.

    So why the hell do we get intelligent people among the hordes of idiots? Must be ID I tell you

    /runs and hide....
    Their kids will struggle in life if they are not intelligent enough to have only as many as they can afford. No money for their children equals lack of education, malnutrition etc. Then again, you don't really need everyone in the world to be intelligent. People are needed to sweep the streets and do other menial hard labour. No intelligence is needed for tasks like these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantanamo View Post
    When those who deny evolution can provide an alternative with facts and empirical evidence supporting their theory in the same manner as evolution has facts and evidence it will be worth putting up a debate. For now we can only sit back and watch as unbeknownst to them, they fall victim to survival of the fittest, because people like the OP are much more likely to remove themselves from the gene pool.On another note; OP which evolution do you take issue with? Macro-, micro- or both?
    Micro evolution (variation) is proven fact and is scientifical.

    Macro evolution, well if this is true then the pink invisible unicorn theory probably is to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by buyeye View Post
    But alas non of those consequences involve hell, gehena or shoel...
    Because they don't exist. If anything they're metaphors for jail or a state of being subject to laws made by man, rightfully so for harming others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elimentals View Post
    Dude, do not do this to me when I am high!!!!

    second hit of there is no hell in the bible today... 1st one was:

    http://www.atheistconnect.org/2011/0...out-the-bible/

    Crap that I just post that in Off Topic?
    High on Durban poison I'm just sharing my beliefs

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrJohnZoidberg View Post
    One question.

    Has anybody here, who is trying to disprove evolution, given another hypothesis for the diversity of life? Something as logical as the ToV, that makes sense and can be backed up by evidence. It would be nice to know what their theories are to give us a better understanding where they are coming from.
    Are you dodging this above question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlikins101 View Post
    Micro evolution (variation) is proven fact and is scientifical.

    Macro evolution, well if this is true then the pink invisible unicorn theory probably is to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlikins101 View Post
    Micro evolution (variation) is proven fact and is scientifical.

    Macro evolution, well if this is true then the pink invisible unicorn theory probably is to...
    There is absolutely no distinction between micro and macro evolution, kiddo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by buyeye View Post
    High on Durban poison I'm just sharing my beliefs
    More like sinus tablets

    Following your denomination I am sure you can agree to some of the points mentioned Esp the heaven & hell part. ie: Point 6 & 8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerfherder View Post
    No, they did not.

    No, mankind started in Africa. Civilization (for lack of a better word) started in the middle east.

    We are just trying to help you. honestly.[/QUOTE]

    Thank you for the opinions.. And thanks for trying to help.

    The fact is just nothing in evolution is credible to me... That phillip guy that died last week believed evolution will be solved in 30 years +-...

    They wait begins..

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