Microsoft Windows 8 plans leave Nokia hamstrung

[BeVonk!]

AIKONA!

[ozziej]

It still surprises me the way that all the other phone OSs seem to completely ignore even 1 year old hardware... I mean, yes I love my iPhone 4s, but at least the iPhone 4 gets most of the new features, if there is a hardware reason for not being able to do something well like Siri, then they just don't get that feature, at least Apple don't tell their users, suck it up boy, you get nothing.
I mean even the iPhone 3S at least can Install the newer versions of the OS, yes it might not get things like the 3D maps and Siri, but at least you get the OS.
Have a look at any graph of the Android OS fragmentation, its crazy. I feel sorry for Android users that cannot get the newest OS. I t would really irritate me.

[BeVonk!]

I feel sorry for Android users that cannot get the newest OS. I t would really irritate me.

Huh? Root and load custom ROM of your choice.

[Nether]

It still surprises me the way that all the other phone OSs seem to completely ignore even 1 year old hardware... I mean, yes I love my iPhone 4s, but at least the iPhone 4 gets most of the new features, if there is a hardware reason for not being able to do something well like Siri, then they just don't get that feature, at least Apple don't tell their users, suck it up boy, you get nothing.
I mean even the iPhone 3S at least can Install the newer versions of the OS, yes it might not get things like the 3D maps and Siri, but at least you get the OS.
Have a look at any graph of the Android OS fragmentation, its crazy. I feel sorry for Android users that cannot get the newest OS. I t would really irritate me.

Your telling me that Siri, if available, would not run on an iPhone 4? Lol

Apple is deliberately not giving you these features...

And as everyone here stated, just load a custom rom to get the latest and greatest, even the Galaxy S1 has ICS in custom flavour. Atleast we're able to do it through choice, unlike Apple customers.

[zamicro]

schnaaied? seriously?

sch...

[Nether]

Wondering how fragmented iPhone 4, 4S and 5 will be especially with the new screen size and specs...

[zamicro]

Ol' Elop's ass must be sore right now.

Maybe time to reactivate the MeeGo project and be in control of your own destiny?

But I'm sure they'll get their money back when Windows Phone 8 gets released. If it looks similar to the Lumia 800 design-wise and has a quad core heart beating inside, it would be the first Nokia phone I buy again since 2001.

And the Lumia 1000 will most probably come with a 100 megapixel camera, just to sweeten the deal.

And then risk the fact that it might not get the next upgrade? I will not risk it.

[kingrob]

And then risk the fact that it might not get the next upgrade? I will not risk it.

In Android world the standard for upgrades is : at least a dual-core phone with 1GB RAM, and it looks like the same applies to the Windows world.

So....if you get one of the new quad-core Windows phones, you're pretty much set for the foreseeable future.

The same with Microsoft's desktop OSes, my laptop ran Windows XP, Vista and now 7 with a breeze, and it's only a Core2Duo. And to me that's value for money, cos the same three year old laptop could run all three new OSes and will even run Windows 8 with no problems.

Same will hold true for the Windows 8 phone flavor.

[MightyMuffinMan]

schnaaied? seriously?

yeah wtf

[icyrus]

It is inevitable the Microsoft will buyout Nokia in the near future.

At least in the Android world you don't miss in features because of the lack of upgrades also you can take matters in your own hands and flash your own phone.

What effect does that have on the warranty?

[Nduimiso]

It still surprises me the way that all the other phone OSs seem to completely ignore even 1 year old hardware... I mean, yes I love my iPhone 4s, but at least the iPhone 4 gets most of the new features, if there is a hardware reason for not being able to do something well like Siri, then they just don't get that feature, at least Apple don't tell their users, suck it up boy, you get nothing.
I mean even the iPhone 3S at least can Install the newer versions of the OS, yes it might not get things like the 3D maps and Siri, but at least you get the OS.
Have a look at any graph of the Android OS fragmentation, its crazy. I feel sorry for Android users that cannot get the newest OS. I t would really irritate me.

Gingerbread has pretty much every feature needed, missing out on ICS is mostly just a visual overhaul, no important new features to miss out on

[kingrob]

Gingerbread has pretty much every feature needed, missing out on ICS is mostly just a visual overhaul, no important new features to miss out on

+1

I actually moved back from ICS to Gingerbread, as I like the feel and look of Gingerbread more.

[Garyvdh]

Maybe Microsoft also "schnaained" themselves also a little bit in the process.

Because if Nokia gets mad at them and backs away a little bit... they lost a strategic partnership.
And if Win8 doesn't work out as well on all the other manufacturers, then there is no running back to Nokia begging.

[elvis_presley]

Because if Nokia gets mad at them and backs away a little bit... they lost a strategic partnership.
And if Win8 doesn't work out as well on all the other manufacturers, then there is no running back to Nokia begging.

Nokia can't back away now - WP7 is about the only part of the company making a profit at the moment.

Nokia has obviously known about this for ages and MS/Nokia have talked it out, I'm sure they have a plan. Besides, most users really don't care - how many normals do you see using Android devices with old versions, they don't know what ICS is, and never will see it on their devices. WP7 users will see the new WP7.8 start screen, probably get free navigation and think hey cool, nice update! And get on with their lives.

As a WP7 user, I'm disappointed about the EOL of the hardware, but as a geek I'm happy as this is a great excuse to buy a new WP8 phone!

HTC announced their WP8 lineup today (looks like it mirrors their One range), so looks like they're eager to get back in the game - they've been hurting on the Android side lately, and have seen how well WP7 worked for Nokia when they gave it some attention.

[Bern]

Hmmm, not sure MS would really want to buy Nokia, although this is a nice way to push the share price down even further.

Nokia, I hope you have a team frantically working on Tizen or some advanced Win8 phone in the wings....