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    Thumbs up Baby circumcision ‘grievous bodily harm’

    http://www.iol.co.za/lifestyle/famil...5#.T-rfi7X9NvA

    Circumcising young boys on religious grounds amounts to grievous bodily harm, a German court ruled on Tuesday in a landmark decision that the Jewish community said trampled on parents' religious rights.

    The regional court in Cologne, western Germany, ruled that the “fundamental right of the child to bodily integrity outweighed the fundamental rights of the parents”, a judgment that is expected to set a legal precedent in the country.
    Read more at the linky. I really hope the rest of the world follows suit soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by efitol View Post

    Read more at the linky. I really hope the rest of the world follows suit soon.
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    Seems there's some sanity left in Europe after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbrunsdonza View Post
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    Oh no...we had a such a good laugh now here in the office. I told the jewish lady that works here with me about this...she was not impressed. She then came with this "Oh but it is cleaner" BS. She did admit she has never had a uncut guy...so I said "Well, I can tell you as someone that has had both, sometimes at the same time, that your "oh it is is cleaner" story is absolute BS"

    She nearly peed herself laughing hahahahaha.

    But no...she aint impressed with this ruling. Said it is Jewish law and they cant infringe on it etc etc. I just said well...Germany is a secular state and the law of the state trumps any religious laws.
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    Wow, I cannot believe how sensative guys get about this issue. Next you all are going to support anit-vasectomy campaigns - and they actually do chop a piece off and toss it away so its pretty much the same.

    But then again I had my cheese factory dicommisioned as a baby and my nutts decommisioned two years back and neither of these two events bugs me or has ever bugged me.
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    What I have always wondered is, where the Jewish religion got the notion that they should circumcise men? I do not recall that the bible mentions or orders it anywhere?

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    Excellent. There is no reason not to wait until the child is older and can make up his own mind about it.
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    Circumcision is healthier, as long as it's done properly for men
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    Quote Originally Posted by efitol View Post
    Read more at the linky. I really hope the rest of the world follows suit soon.
    I agree. There's no reason why Jews should get a special right to hack bits off their children.

    A good start would be stripping a doctor's license if they do circumcisions on children that are not medically necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbrunsdonza View Post
    Wow, I cannot believe how sensative guys get about this issue. Next you all are going to support anit-vasectomy campaigns - and they actually do chop a piece off and toss it away so its pretty much the same.
    Not sure how these two 2 issues relate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbrunsdonza View Post
    Wow, I cannot believe how sensative guys get about this issue. Next you all are going to support anit-vasectomy campaigns - and they actually do chop a piece off and toss it away so its pretty much the same.

    But then again I had my cheese factory dicommisioned as a baby and my nutts decommisioned two years back and neither of these two events bugs me or has ever bugged me.
    Who is going to promote vasectomies for baby boys? And while we're at it is it cool if I chop some unnecessary bits off my daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by smalltownsky View Post
    Circumcision is healthier, as long as it's done properly for men
    As long as it is done on men when it is elective, then there is no problem.

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