Intuition

[jingaling]

What if humans were able to manipulate the future by precognitive foresight?

Numerous experiences over the years have had me believe that it may be possible. One of the most insightful ones I remember is the rockfall in Arniston back in 1988. That day I had walked to Roman beach to see some friends who were hanging out under the open cave. They saw me and waved. I waved back but for some inexplicable reason couldn’t move any further to join them. Hours later, after spending a boring day at home came the sudden sounds of sirens heading down the main road.
I followed the two ambulances to Roman beach. To my horror the rocks on the open cave had crashed down. One person died on the scene, and another seriously injured. To this day I wonder what had stopped me from the usual habit of hanging out in that cave.

Most of you probably think I’m a sandwich short of a picnic. But I’m probably not the only one so if you have some experiences of your own please do share.

We all have our own beliefs but for those who only recognise scientific explanations, some links have been provided. The results of the experiments are that the heart appears to process and interpret anticipatory events.

http://www.psy.unipd.it/~tressold/JSPR09.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkMK7p9QDak

[Geriatrix]

It's an nice subject to discuss around a campfires. It's not very useful though. Death, she is coming.

[copacetic]

I suspect that for every time 1 person has a 'premonition' and realizes it, there are a million others who just intersect with the future without giving it a second thought. What I mean is that there are billions of people in the world, and it stands to reason that sometimes a person in this mass of people is going to make a unusual decision, as you did, and then in retrospect perceive it as some kind of 'power'.

[SinghDude]

What if such an occurence is not once off ?


Simple coincidence ?

[rwenzori]

There is always an awful lot of unconscious brain activity on the go - some recent experiments mentioned here on forum claim even that we are just automata given the brain activity prior to taking conscious action. Me I wouldn't go so far, but to have evolved to where we are over millions of years, we have needed every danger warning mechanism possible. Our amazing ability to recognise shapes, eyes, faces: our distrust of those not like us ( propensity for prejudice if you like ): and such like.

So it is possible that there are times when nothing looks overtly wrong or dangerous, but part of your brain has recognised a danger.

That said, I once had a premonition of someone's death ( young person -not some crone on her deathbed ): turned out to have happened. Bah! Must be coincidence.

[porchrat]

As copacetic has mentioned already for every single instance in which we recognise some strange action we took that resulted in us avoiding some terrible event, there are many more times where we just carry on and walk smack into the future without ever having had a single funny feeling about it.

What is happening here looks a lot like confirmation bias to me.

[DJ...]

The variables involved in these situations (like the OP's) are so incredibly vast, that for there to be some sort of precognition going on, it would be blatantly evident scientifically. Science however can find nothing of the sort.

We only tend to attribute meaning, or even precognition to these sorts of significant events. For every event like this, a billion others go un-noticed, unregistered and attributed to nothing but life itself. The same applies to tragedies, or near-tragedies...

[Mineer]

What if such an occurence is not once off ?


Simple coincidence ?

I once had 2 premonitions in a row with few seconds apart

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthre...ago?highlight=

but sadly never happened again but I agree with DJ's post above simple coincidence or actual premonitions would be to difficult to determine if the events are not repeatable

[Nick333]

There is always an awful lot of unconscious brain activity on the go - some recent experiments mentioned here on forum claim even that we are just automata given the brain activity prior to taking conscious action. Me I wouldn't go so far, but to have evolved to where we are over millions of years, we have needed every danger warning mechanism possible. Our amazing ability to recognise shapes, eyes, faces: our distrust of those not like us ( propensity for prejudice if you like ): and such like.

So it is possible that there are times when nothing looks overtly wrong or dangerous, but part of your brain has recognised a danger.

That said, I once had a premonition of someone's death ( young person -not some crone on her deathbed ): turned out to have happened. Bah! Must be coincidence.

Pretty much this. There's a lot going on in our unconscious mind we're only aware of as emotions and feelings. And, you can't rule out coincidence.

[Nick333]

The variables involved in these situations (like the OP's) are so incredibly vast, that for there to be some sort of precognition going on, it would be blatantly evident scientifically. Science however can find nothing of the sort.

We only tend to attribute meaning, or even precognition to these sorts of significant events. For every event like this, a billion others go un-noticed, unregistered and attributed to nothing but life itself. The same applies to tragedies, or near-tragedies...

And of course we tend to "rewrite" our memories to suit our inner narrative. So a feeling of " Oh, not these *******s I really don't feel like them right now" becomes an inability to move.

[jingaling]

I suspect that for every time 1 person has a 'premonition' and realizes it, there are a million others who just intersect with the future without giving it a second thought. What I mean is that there are billions of people in the world, and it stands to reason that sometimes a person in this mass of people is going to make a unusual decision, as you did, and then in retrospect perceive it as some kind of 'power'.

Some people don't perceive it as some kind of 'power' but natural capability humans possess.

And of course we tend to "rewrite" our memories to suit our inner narrative. So a feeling of " Oh, not these *******s I really don't feel like them right now" becomes an inability to move.

My personal experiences aside, the scientific evidence is pretty compeling, considering two separate experiments have produced the same conclusion. What's suprising is that pre-cognition is not limited to the brain. The links to the expiriment conducted in 2004 below:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15025887
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15165413

[Devill]

It's an nice subject to discuss around a campfires. It's not very useful though. Death, she is coming.

And let us be clear, she is a beeeeetch.

As to the OP, the brain processes "probability".

[copacetic]

Some people don't perceive it as some kind of 'power' but natural capability humans possess.

Whatever you want to call it...

Look, I don't doubt at all that there is some level of this at play - There's generally a lot more going on behind the scenes than what we are consciously aware of.

But I am very careful in turning subjective and in the grand scheme of things, very random experiences into evidence of what would amount to a supernatural power, depending on the incident in question...

[Pox]

Intuition != Seeing/Predicting the future

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/intuition?s=t

[jingaling]

or, "Intuition is the ability to acquire knowledge without inference or the use of reason."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuition_%28psychology%29