Intuition

[Unhappy438]

Did you purposely skip the word "majority" this time to try and remove the ambiguity from your previous statement?

Lol oh rite ok so now you are trying to tell me that it fails the "majority" because men are involved in the equation, you worded that very vaguely if that's the case. Ok so please post your info and stats proving women are involved in less freak accidents or even accidents than men. Dont post any stats about car accidents because that's got nothing to do with this intuition.

Dj you are right , this is a very SEF like character.

[jingaling]

Lol oh rite ok so now you are trying to tell me that it fails the "majority" because men are involved in the equation, you worded that very vaguely if that's the case. Ok so please post your info and stats proving women are involved in less freak accidents or even accidents than men. Dont post any stats about car accidents because that's got nothing to do with this intuition.

I actually bothered to read through the material before posting the links.
If you have any evidence to the contrary then by all means present the evidence. Preferably likewise from a scientific journal. Note I had provided two studies, not just one.

[Unhappy438]

I actually bothered to read through the material before posting the links.
If you have any evidence to the contrary then by all means present the evidence. Preferably likewise from a scientific journal. Note I had provided two studies, not just one.

So you dont have any of those stats that i asked for? Gotcha so i can dismiss those statements of yours as rubbish..

[jingaling]

So you dont have any of those stats that i asked for? Gotcha so i can dismiss those statements of yours as rubbish..

This is like fighting a battle where I'm sitting with live ammunition and you're just firing blanks.
For the last time, I had already provided evidence before the statement was made, which is based on scientific theory, not accident statistics.

[Unhappy438]

This is like fighting a battle where I'm sitting with live ammunition and you're just firing blanks.
For the last time, I had already provided evidence before the statement was made, which is based on scientific theory, not accident statistics.

You posted a link to a youtube video of pseudoscience, one of the guys on that video James L. Oschman talks the biggest load of crap. Here is a blog on one of his books, the guy thinks "energy medicine" is legit http://quackfiles.blogspot.com/2006/...cientific.html . As for your little study of 26 people thats not anywhere near scientific anyone can gather 26 people and come to just about any varying conclusion.

[porchrat]

Not everyone who finished school over a couple decades ago will remember everything they were taught about science.

Fair enough. My apologies.

Common sense tells me that if intuition is a generally accepted occurence that the scientific objective would now be to study the understanding of intuition and the process thereof.

Just becuse humans regard the occurrence of intuition as "common sense" does not mean science necessarily needs to get involved. Science needs observations to interpret. If there is no observation of what you term intuition then there can be no scientific investigation. When we make an observation that looks like what we describe as intuition (and it seems by the links you have provided that some people may have made such observations) then a theory must be constructed from what we see and it must be put to the test to determine which parts, if any, hold up to scrutiny.

But just like the TOE, people will still argue the existence, instead of thinking beyond that.

This makes no sense. The Theory of Evolution is an attempt to explain our observations, this is how science works. There is no argument to prove it's existence because it is a theory, it doesn't exist in real life, This would be like trying to argue the existence of an explanation... nonsensical entirely. As far as science is concerned there is just testing and retesting.

[porchrat]

Off course it would fail the majority of mankind since the studies of shown that women are more intuitive than men.

I didn't read that in your study links.

[Unhappy438]

I also think part of the problem here is Jingalings confusion of different types of intuition. Lets take a cop for example, they can certainly have an intuition that senses danger. This is however the result of training and experience, the cop becomes so good at identifying threats based on human actions and emotions he is almost calculating risks subconsciously.

With regards to the OP im going to assume he is not a structural engineer that can pick out weaknesses in rock formations subconsciously and do that without even going up close to the structure.

[jingaling]

Just becuse humans regard the occurrence of intuition as "common sense" does not mean science necessarily needs to get involved. Science needs observations to interpret. If there is no observation of what you term intuition then there can be no scientific investigation. When we make an observation that looks like what we describe as intuition (and it seems by the links you have provided that some people may have made such observations) then a theory must be constructed from what we see and it must be put to the test to determine which parts, if any, hold up to scrutiny.

We'll hust have to wait for part 3 then.

This makes no sense. The Theory of Evolution is an attempt to explain our observations, this is how science works. There is no argument to prove it's existence because it is a theory, it doesn't exist in real life, This would be like trying to argue the existence of an explanation... nonsensical entirely. As far as science is concerned there is just testing and retesting.

If you done enough research you would know theory and fact are just semantics when referring to TOE. You say potato....

[jingaling]

I also think part of the problem here is Jingalings confusion of different types of intuition. Lets take a cop for example, they can certainly have an intuition that senses danger. This is however the result of training and experience, the cop becomes so good at identifying threats based on human actions and emotions he is almost calculating risks subconsciously.

With regards to the OP im going to assume he is not a structural engineer that can pick out weaknesses in rock formations subconsciously and do that without even going up close to the structure.

Thanks for the lesson. I had no idea there there were different types as per the examples you have mentioned.

[DJ...]

If you done enough research you would know theory and fact are just semantics when referring to TOE.

Now you're just making schit up...

You say potato....

And you claim potatoes don't exist...

[Flidiot]

@OP...

I like to keep an open mind about these things. There is so much that is still to be discovered about us, as the human race, as well as our surroundings (from our personal "ecosystems" to the universe).

Intuition, is a pretty damn powerful thing - everyone has it, it just goes by a different name, "gut feeling". IMO, as rwenzori mentioned as well, our brains are constantly churning through data like no one can explain. So it could be that your reaction in such a situation is more logic based, but it's not to say that it is. You may not physically see rocks caving in, then warp back to present times. But you get that feeling that says you should avoid the situation.

Big question is, what makes more sense to you as a personal belief? That logically, your brain produces charges that give you a feeling to stay away/pursue? Or that there is a chance that there are other forces in play (foresight, sixth sense, guardian angels, call it what you want to...) that science cannot explain...

As I say, I am extremely open minded - logical, but open to reason that actually a grey area where the black/white areas of the debate overlap.

[murraybiscuit]

You know, I'm willing to embrace any belief which could suspend rational explanation yet deliver reliable beneficial outcomes. The problem is that the payouts with these things is simply not worth the investment. The rituals just never really provide predictable outcomes. In short, superstition is plain unreliable and statistically unimpressive. Be it prophecy, prayer, talisman, incantation, divination, or charm, I have yet to hear a convincing case for their utility.

[porchrat]

We'll hust have to wait for part 3 then.

Indeed.

If you done enough research you would know theory and fact are just semantics when referring to TOE. You say potato....

It is most certainly not a case of "You say potato" and it is definitely not mere semantics. Evolution is the observation, it is the fact. The Theory of Evolution is a theory, an attempt to explain the fact. In the same way that gravity is the observation and the various theories of Gravitation are the attempts to explain that fact.

Speak for yourself on the doing research plan. I know well enough already the difference between a theory and a fact. Go and look up the difference between a scientific theory and a fact and the distinctions between the Theory of Evolution and evolution itself will quickly become apparent to you.

[jingaling]

@OP...

I like to keep an open mind about these things. There is so much that is still to be discovered about us, as the human race, as well as our surroundings (from our personal "ecosystems" to the universe).

Intuition, is a pretty damn powerful thing - everyone has it, it just goes by a different name, "gut feeling". IMO, as rwenzori mentioned as well, our brains are constantly churning through data like no one can explain. So it could be that your reaction in such a situation is more logic based, but it's not to say that it is. You may not physically see rocks caving in, then warp back to present times. But you get that feeling that says you should avoid the situation.

Big question is, what makes more sense to you as a personal belief? That logically, your brain produces charges that give you a feeling to stay away/pursue? Or that there is a chance that there are other forces in play (foresight, sixth sense, guardian angels, call it what you want to...) that science cannot explain...

As I say, I am extremely open minded - logical, but open to reason that actually a grey area where the black/white areas of the debate overlap.

Since childhood I’ve been battling to make sense of it, and would reason it away with coincidence. However over the last 7 years the occurrences have been a lot more frequent and pronounced, up to a point that I struggle to define reasonable and logical explanations for them.
Recently there had been an event, and results that were quite unsettling. It would be appreciative if someone could give proper insight and explanation to foresight, sixth sense or whatever you want to call it.