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    Quote Originally Posted by porchrat View Post
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    It is most certainly not a case of "You say potato" and it is definitely not mere semantics. Evolution is the observation, it is the fact. The Theory of Evolution is a theory, an attempt to explain the fact. In the same way that gravity is the observation and the various theories of Gravitation are the attempts to explain that fact.

    Speak for yourself on the doing research plan. I know well enough already the difference between a theory and a fact. Go and look up the difference between a scientific theory and a fact and the distinctions between the Theory of Evolution and evolution itself will quickly become apparent to you.
    Ok so you caught me for using the common argument:
    Casting evolution as fact and theory occurs regularly in the public and scientific discourse on the fundamental nature of the scientific philosophy within evolutionary biology. This topic appears frequently in publications that aim to clarify misconceptions about the science of evolution and the nature of these terms, often in response to creationist claims that "evolution is only a theory", "it is not a fact", or that intelligent design offers a credible counter "theory". In ensuing debates, evolution is identified as either fact or theory and occasionally both or neither. Semantic differences between the usage of these terms (fact and theory) in science versus the meanings they convey in common vernacular have led to confusion in public discourse. In the context of creationists claims, theory is used in its vernacular meaning as an imperfect fact or an unsubstantiated speculation.....
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evoluti...act_and_theory

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingaling View Post
    Ok so you caught me for using the common argument:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evoluti...act_and_theory

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
    Don't worry eventually you will get one right I am sure. I hope you have learnt something from the discussion and the differences between fact and theory in a scientific sense. That at least would be something.

    There is no need for religious kooks to be so confrontational when it comes to science. The scientific method is one of the greatest things humanity as ever managed to figure out. A system that allows us to make sense of our world. Truly inspiring stuff. Treating it with disdain makes no sense whatsoever, especially while making comments on an electronic device connected to the Internet. Total hypocrisy.
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    You have to see the movie "The Men Who Stare at Goats" for a lighthearted look at what were allegedly real experiments by the US Military to use abilities such as 'remote viewing' (the ability some people claim to have to see remote objects or sites in their minds). The movie is hilarious. Afterwards I went to Wiki to find out more about the book and the actual experiments.

    There are many aspects of physics which are not detectable by human senses and which science did not understand or accept but we now take for granted. What is stated as common belief in a modern astronomy or nuclear physics primer would have been considered a massive leap of faith a hundred years ago or less. There is a lot we will still discover in our lifetimes. Keep an open mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entrepr View Post
    There are many aspects of physics which are not detectable by human senses and which science did not understand or accept but we now take for granted.
    Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Back up. First show me a single, verifiable, repeatable claim of a single psychic having ever roamed this earth. Until then, psychics and their baloney remain the realm of hooey...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ... View Post
    Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Back up. First show me a single, verifiable, repeatable claim of a single psychic having ever roamed this earth. Until then, psychics and their baloney remain the realm of hooey...
    I think what entrepr is explaining is that PSI phenomena cannot be explained by conventional science, because, like love and other emotions it is non localised. But that's what we have quantum physics to try and understand the phenomena.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingaling View Post
    I think what entrepr is explaining is that PSI phenomena cannot be explained by conventional science, because, like love and other emotions it is non localised. But that's what we have quantum physics to try and understand the phenomena.
    I was beer-toasted the last time I read that post. I now see it says physics and not psychics. I'm a much better drunk on hard spirits than beer by the looks of things...

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