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    Quote Originally Posted by Mineer View Post
    Question to the muslims on this site do they know of any Wahhabi financed mosque in South Africa google search turns up nothing, and I am not aware of any Wahhabi mosques in Cape Town. also I Have been all over South Africa mostly thru my youth but never took note of a Wahhabi specific mosque tho it was pointed out to me esp in JHB that we now going to a mosque Hanafi mosque and they pray slightly different to us shafi's, but there is no problem between us and them both are sunni.
    Isn't that massive one on West Street, Houghton a Wahhabi funded mosque?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eehellfire View Post
    Isn't that massive one on West Street, Houghton a Wahhabi funded mosque?
    not familiar with JHB like I said been traveling SA when I was young 6-13yrs old I just remember clearly about going to hanafi mosque cos they made prayers differently to What I then expected to be the norm
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    Quote Originally Posted by eehellfire View Post
    Isn't that massive one on West Street, Houghton a Wahhabi funded mosque?
    Theres 2 conflicting stories, with one story saying it is partly funded by the Houghton community which I think is BS.Not sure but someone said there's a another big mosque just a few street away which was built by the Houghton community.Why fund 2 massive mosques in such close proximity with such a small muslim community.Doesn't make sense.

    However, construction of the Houghton Muslim Jamaat Trust building - which was started in September 2009 as a partnership between the Saudi government and the Houghton Muslim community - was shelved in April last year.
    http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytim...th-contractors

    Here's the other story
    The Houghton mosque will, of course, be located on some of Africa’s most expensive suburban real estate and some of Johannesburg’s most historical land. Since religious groups normally battle with funding, one wonders if it would not have been more cost effective and less intrusive to the residential nature of leafy Houghton to build the mosque on Louis Botha Avenue. It’s a hop and a skip away from Houghton where land costs a fraction of the price. The reason is that the price of the land, it turns out, is not really an issue.

    That’s because, according to the article, the King Fahd Islamic Trust Centre, Saudi Arabia, is funding the entire project. That’s right, local South African Muslims do not have to foot the bill on this one; it’s a gift from the Saudi Kingdom. And the Saudis have not just extended their benevolence to us here in South Africa it would seem, but are doing the same around the globe.
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    Well, in Islamic countries the state often foots the bill with some community support. Every Mosque does have a patron of sorts though - an individual/organization/entity that contributed a significant portion of funds/access to resources. This also influences the name given to the mosque. In non-Islamic countries the local community provides support, but depending on the socio-economic status of the area the mosque is built in, other donations will be solicited from the broader community (nationally and internationally). Here's a significant point though, whatever work can be produced with the unpaid (or slightly subsidized) assistance of community members is widely used, i.e. a member is a builder/tiler/bricklayer/plumber/etc. and he contributes his services to the construction of the mosque without charging or charging at cost price or less. This though mostly only applies to company owners and not individual skilled workers (you don't do the work yourself but have your company do it). Interesting fact: there is a definite preference for 'Muslim' owned companies to do any of the construction, decoration, etc. work in the event that the mosque cannot be built by the 'community' alone.

    There are no over riding ecumenical bodies as such, rather, things are heavily dependent on networks of association. This is reflected in the rather insular character of many Muslim cultures around the world, even in fairly tolerant (though conservative) Muslim communities as found in South Africa.
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    That big mosque on the highway was indeed started out by the houghton jamaat ( guys in charge of other houghton mosque) in conjunction with a Saudi financial backer. There was a fall out of sorts and now the mosque has been struggling to finish construction due to lack of funds. They are now relying on community funding.

    The why and what I have no clue? Whether it was due to wahabi politics , local politics I have no clue.

    I will investigate the full details of the falling out and the subsequent events.

    Interesting point though....
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    Islam is funded by The Vatican

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosag View Post
    That big mosque on the highway was indeed started out by the houghton jamaat ( guys in charge of other houghton mosque) in conjunction with a Saudi financial backer. There was a fall out of sorts and now the mosque has been struggling to finish construction due to lack of funds. They are now relying on community funding.

    The why and what I have no clue? Whether it was due to wahabi politics , local politics I have no clue.

    I will investigate the full details of the falling out and the subsequent events.

    Interesting point though....
    That thing has been in construction for years, like almost a decade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerfherder View Post
    That thing has been in construction for years, like almost a decade.
    No way man. Maybe 5 years max

    EDIT: since 2009, as per @DrYes's post
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    The Mosque in Midrand will have school facilities Grade 1 - 12, A souk, and a community hall. i suggest everyone visits there Muslim or not, its like your in Turkey and not South Africa.....


    The design in based on a 17th century(I think) ottoman mosque

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostbuster View Post
    The Mosque in Midrand will have school facilities Grade 1 - 12, A souk, and a community hall. i suggest everyone visits there Muslim or not, its like your in Turkey and not South Africa.....


    The design in based on a 17th century(I think) ottoman mosque
    from what i know all the mosques in turkey are based on the same design and since a turkish guy built it it will have the same design
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