Thats a perfectly rational statement. Saying smokers should die quickly and the hope we get cancer is not.Originally Posted by eltherza
Ironically, some of us that want you all to stop because we've seen the harm/death it brings...
Thats a perfectly rational statement. Saying smokers should die quickly and the hope we get cancer is not.Ironically, some of us that want you all to stop because we've seen the harm/death it brings...
When hungry, eat your rice; when tired, close your eyes. Fools may laugh at me, but wise men will know what I mean.
—Lin-Chi
It's a logical, your 14% would be taken off something else you'd spend your money on, so the sin tax is the only thing that applies. Do you really think the small amount you pay per pack really out weighs the R100 000s your medical bill will cost?
ROFL since when will government pay for the medical bills? There is no mention of a trust fund being created out of sin tax to solemnly go for the good of smokers, my God you fall for propaganda.
When did I say the sin tax went to hospitals? The comparision was that the amount of money the sin tax generates does not contribute to the system more than the hospital bills take from the system. Smoking BURDENS the system more than it CONRIBUTES (or in SA, is stolen by Zuma).
Better way to think of it:
Can that R100 000 bill spend on chemo be spent elsewhere better? Yes.
lol and you believe that government knows best where government should spend that money? The money going to nicotine contributes to job creation, the money going to medical bills contribute to medical research all in all we might one day have way to smoke and also cure it instantaneously!
I'm sure you know that prevention is better than cure.
Lol, you think medical bills fund research? That's cute.
In most cases medical aid pays for it, so medical aids have to raise the prices, so you are costing alot of people alot more.
Who pays those bills when someone who can't afford it/not coverd is rushed into emergancy?
Have stoke, use an entire emergancy team's time and focus... time that could have been spent helping someone else.
Heres a better solution, every single smoker, take your monthly fix budget and send it to CANSA, then you'll be contributing more than your silly justification that sin tax "helps".
Apply whatever you said to those who are obese as well. As with any insurance scheme, those at a higher risk pay a higher premium. You're not paying more than you would have otherwise.
Solve two of the world's major problems: feed the homeless to the hungry
It's amazing the justifications the addicts have for their addictions.
Yes you can, but there arent any laws for that (yet...) and we're talking about smoking particularly here.
Medical aids charge smokers more? News to me.As with any insurance scheme, those at a higher risk pay a higher premium. You're not paying more than you would have otherwise.
Yeah, some are even arguing that it's good for them, wtf.
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did any of you go into those sections in any case?
Hitler's like the Mickey Mouse of evil. Except Goofy is Goebbels and Minnie is on fire in a ditch.
Law no. 1 of smoking: Never argue with a smoker that it's bad for them coz they don't get the reasoning
we can see how reasonable you are when someone tries to take away something you loveLaw no. 1 of smoking: Never argue with a smoker that it's bad for them coz they don't get the reasoning
Hitler's like the Mickey Mouse of evil. Except Goofy is Goebbels and Minnie is on fire in a ditch.
Scat?we can see how reasonable you are when someone tries to take away something you love
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