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    Quote Originally Posted by kimbo View Post
    Could you help me with this please .. i am a newbi
    Long press on ur entry task, green arrow, u will gt the option to add the exit task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techead View Post
    ok, one thing that is utterly retarded is that you cant turn-on GPS per application.

    apparently some limit of the OS and you have to have a rooted OS.

    all I wanted to do was enable GPS when I fire up maps/places/navigation

    sigh
    Dont blame the app, google made the choice to block app acces to gps toggle, and depending on what phone you have rooting may not b enough, if u on aosp then you need to flash a custom rom, touchwiz and htc sense open the lock partially as they put in gps toggles so with secure settings u can enable tasker gps with just rooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan_G View Post
    App isn't retarded. You have to be root to do that. And no, its not the developers problem. Root your phone if you want the feature.





    I prefer Llama to do this kind of thing. Finding your location using GPS would require GPS to stay on(Or switch on and off) which kills your battery. LLama just takes note of which cell towers you are connected to and can therefore find your location. It is mostly accurate and is simpler to use over all(although it does lack some of the more "power options") of Tasker.
    Problem with using location on cell tower is u need to work really far from home. The strongest cell tower to my house is 5km away and is the same tower i pick up at work which is another 3km.

    As wifi uses minimal power you can use the ssid as ur trigger, and in case u neva knew tasker can also use cell towers for locations. Newer cell tower, like cellcs have 5x normal range and a single tower can cover up to a 70km radius making cell towers absolutely useless for some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CranialBlaze View Post
    Problem with using location on cell tower is u need to work really far from home. The strongest cell tower to my house is 5km away and is the same tower i pick up at work which is another 3km.

    As wifi uses minimal power you can use the ssid as ur trigger, and in case u neva knew tasker can also use cell towers for locations. Newer cell tower, like cellcs have 5x normal range and a single tower can cover up to a 70km radius making cell towers absolutely useless for some.
    Yeah, I understand that. You have the option of using multiple towers to create a more defined location. Are there no more towers to connect to ? At home, I have 10 different cells connected(of course, I would think its only 3 that really give the location) and in the case of area 2 its 2 towers. They have a slight amount of overlap, so I use the condition of being connected to my home Wifi as a final check.

    I have a place that I frequent thats about 200m away from my house and it knows when I'm in either of these areas. Of course, there are blind spots such as when I'm in the bathroom and it thinks I'm in the other location.

    The thing about wifi is when I'm in location 1 (home) then its wifi on, mobile data off, auto sync on, brightness lowered. When I'm in location 2 then its the opposites as I keep the Wifi off to conserve data because it won't be connecting to anything, but I'm guessing you use Wifi in both places ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CranialBlaze View Post
    Long press on ur entry task, green arrow, u will gt the option to add the exit task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan_G View Post
    Yeah, I understand that. You have the option of using multiple towers to create a more defined location. Are there no more towers to connect to ? At home, I have 10 different cells connected(of course, I would think its only 3 that really give the location) and in the case of area 2 its 2 towers. They have a slight amount of overlap, so I use the condition of being connected to my home Wifi as a final check.

    I have a place that I frequent thats about 200m away from my house and it knows when I'm in either of these areas. Of course, there are blind spots such as when I'm in the bathroom and it thinks I'm in the other location.

    The thing about wifi is when I'm in location 1 (home) then its wifi on, mobile data off, auto sync on, brightness lowered. When I'm in location 2 then its the opposites as I keep the Wifi off to conserve data because it won't be connecting to anything, but I'm guessing you use Wifi in both places ?
    Never seen more than 1 tower to connect to near my house, but I live in a fairly open area, as far as I know there are less than 5 towers withing 20km of me.
    My brightness is permanently on minimum, phone works great like that, I have wifi everywhere, there are only a handful of spots where I do not have a wifi connection. Wifi just uses so little power it a waste to turn it off in most cases. I also have my wifi scan interval decreased from the standard of 15 seconds to 2 minutes.

    AUtosync is never off, not that I really care but I have onavo extend for data compression, save about 60% on my very rare data usages.

    As for profiles I have about 7 active profiles switching between work and everywhere else, then I have GPS toggles for apps, auto volume for my headphones, data toggle when on wifi, Wake-On_lan for my computers, then a few manual tasks like sleep mode that turns down my volumes and up my alarm, signs out of GTalk, puts the phone in airplane mode and turns off my file-server.

    Wake up to do pretty much the opposite.

    I cn get the benefit in location scanning for something without mostly constant wifi, but the cell tower scanning still uses more battery than having left wifi on. GSM signal usage is one of the most battery intensive operations on a phone, wifi uses up to 70% less than 3G and 40% less than EDGE, can only imagine what the difference is when compared to HSDPA+. I am actually considering getting a mini 3G router with cellc, cheaper data and then I never need to switch my phone off wifi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CranialBlaze View Post
    Never seen more than 1 tower to connect to near my house, but I live in a fairly open area, as far as I know there are less than 5 towers withing 20km of me.
    My brightness is permanently on minimum, phone works great like that, I have wifi everywhere, there are only a handful of spots where I do not have a wifi connection. Wifi just uses so little power it a waste to turn it off in most cases. I also have my wifi scan interval decreased from the standard of 15 seconds to 2 minutes.

    AUtosync is never off, not that I really care but I have onavo extend for data compression, save about 60% on my very rare data usages.

    As for profiles I have about 7 active profiles switching between work and everywhere else, then I have GPS toggles for apps, auto volume for my headphones, data toggle when on wifi, Wake-On_lan for my computers, then a few manual tasks like sleep mode that turns down my volumes and up my alarm, signs out of GTalk, puts the phone in airplane mode and turns off my file-server.

    Wake up to do pretty much the opposite.

    I cn get the benefit in location scanning for something without mostly constant wifi, but the cell tower scanning still uses more battery than having left wifi on. GSM signal usage is one of the most battery intensive operations on a phone, wifi uses up to 70% less than 3G and 40% less than EDGE, can only imagine what the difference is when compared to HSDPA+. I am actually considering getting a mini 3G router with cellc, cheaper data and then I never need to switch my phone off wifi.
    How do you do the wake on LAN ? Would love to know...

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    Check the market, WoL Wan if u just want to turn it on, or Rocket Launcher if u wanna turn it off as well.

    Both intergrate with tasker, RL is a bit easier to setup in tasker, but WoL Wan lets you assign names to your pcs and create groups.

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    This does the trick for me.

    Have an NFC stick programmed to launch the WOL app - so when I get home from work I put my S3 down on the sticker and my PC starts up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necropolis View Post
    This does the trick for me.

    Have an NFC stick programmed to launch the WOL app - so when I get home from work I put my S3 down on the sticker and my PC starts up
    Thats just so much more effort, not to mention having to buy and programme nfc stickers. All I have to do is be withing 20m of my house.Something I do each day when I get home.

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    I used Tasker for a long time, but now use Llama. Just preference.

    When my phone disconnects from my home access points, my Bluetooth switches on. By the time I reverse out the drive my cell has paired with the car Bluetooth.
    When at the office, cell connects to office WiFi and Bluetooth switches off again. So on...

    In the car I have my old Desire HD as a permanent Nav device for maps and Waze. When it disconnects from my home office wifi (right by the gate), Waze fires up and screen to full brightness. Toggles when I get to the office.

    Then all the standard volume adjustments based on time of day.

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    Interesting that the Motorola smart actions allows you access to toggle the gps

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    Quote Originally Posted by CranialBlaze View Post
    Dont blame the app, google made the choice to block app acces to gps toggle, and depending on what phone you have rooting may not b enough, if u on aosp then you need to flash a custom rom, touchwiz and htc sense open the lock partially as they put in gps toggles so with secure settings u can enable tasker gps with just rooting.
    That is exactly what the GPS toggle is supposed to do. It does not physically turn your GPS on and off. It blocks apps from accessing your GPS.
    Just leave GPS turned on. It is only physically powered up when an app does a location request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CranialBlaze View Post
    Thats just so much more effort, not to mention having to buy and programme nfc stickers. All I have to do is be withing 20m of my house.Something I do each day when I get home.
    You can call that WOL app from tasker so you don't have to use NFC stickers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddmatt View Post
    That is exactly what the GPS toggle is supposed to do. It does not physically turn your GPS on and off. It blocks apps from accessing your GPS.
    Just leave GPS turned on. It is only physically powered up when an app does a location request.
    If that's the case, why give you the option of turning it off?

    Anyways, my navigation dock arrived today so for me I use that as a trigger in smart actions to enable the things I want to use while driving, like gps, turn off sync, brightness etc, when you dismount from the nav dock the phone goes back to how it was before you docked it.

    I dono maybe I'm weird but I've tried apps like Llama and Juice Defender, I'd rather just control toggles myself. It's not so bad when there are apps that allow you to put toggles in your notification area as well as lock screen.
    I do use smart actions but only for driving and turning my phone on silent when I go to weekly meetings at work.

    I've been tempted to buy tasker, maybe you guys really use it but for me it will be a waste

    Oh and I am so going to be playing with that wol app.
    Last edited by CoolBug; 13-07-2012 at 05:53 PM.

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